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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 06:29 AM Original message |
Hillary Clinton adviser Mark Penn once fired by Al Gore |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 06:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sounds like another Karl Rove |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Shouldn't We Have Our Own Karl Rove |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 06:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Not one who wants to maintain the status quo |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. No |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:24 AM Response to Reply #5 |
32. 'Chicago politics' too bloody for my support.. I prefer Kucinich "strength through peace" |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
55. Sorry, but we need strategists from the DLC |
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snowbear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Ok Sandy, that is too funny! |
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sandyd921 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Hi Larissa! |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
10. No. That's precisely what's wrong with politics and the country. |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. You Don't Bring A Pea Shooter To A Knife Fight |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Politics is not a game or a sport. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. No, Karl Rove was a criminal and a fraud |
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DemocratSinceBirth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. My Point Wasn't About His Acumen But About His Single Minded Focus On Winning |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I understand your point, but no Karl Rove is going to do that for you effectively |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:16 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Karl Rove helped ruin his own party |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
63. What makes you think he's "our" Karl Rove? n/t |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Yes, but not to the extent that we push poll about John McCain's illegitimate black child |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
3. PLS Al Gore deliver us from (DLC) evil. We've had it with corporatism and it's dragging |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
6. Penns client list includes Holy Joe LIEberman - Is THAT the type "democrat" we want? |
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itsrobert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. This Lieberman? |
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SaveElmer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Was actually thinkin about this one... |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. exactly so.... |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. WE AREN'T VOTING FOR MARK PENN THIS IS A NON-ISSUE. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. You are indeed voting for Mark Penn if he is giving policy advice. |
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KaptBunnyPants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. Yes you are. Politics is all about alliances. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:52 AM Response to Original message |
11. If Hillary wins, is it going to be like this all the time where we have to |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. LOL! Monitor? And when she does something that hurts your tender feelings? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. "Eternal Vigilance, is the price of (Democracy.)" |
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wyldwolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
41. I guess we're all lucky to have a woman like you protecting us. (snicker) |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. And don't you forget it. (butterfinger) |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
61. Mark Penn, is that you? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-08-07 02:53 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Nah...Penn has more integrity. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-08-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #71 |
73. That's brutal. |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. yes, if you don't want: |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:15 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Exactly. Anyone who can talk specifics, knows the real score. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Notice how the Clinton supporters NEVER address those things? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Deleted message |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:41 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. I've heard that. Where does one get a "netroots" job anyway? |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:44 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Not sure. I think it's one of those things that blonde waitresses who work in diners, |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Ba dap ching! Good one. |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I wonder how much they'll pay us to stir up trouble on the pro-Hillary |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. I would guess the only one is on her website |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:30 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. If she would only attack right-wingeres in Congress, with the same zeal |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Exactly! Now that would be a candidate I could contribute my energy to! But, it takes a village... |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #34 |
59. they are on aol messsge boards and yahoo message boards as well |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
17. According to this Democracy Now piece, Penn was brought to the Clinton camp by Dick Morris! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Beware of Greeks bearing gifts! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
27. Bush's Third Term. eom |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:13 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Mistake |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Read the article, then decide what you think. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Deleted message |
Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
33. Wondering if Gore regrets listening to Lieberman's advise..Like.. |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
38. So? Other campaigns don't have campaign managers? What's the big deal? |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Do you like Karl Rove? After all, he was just a campaign manager and |
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LeFleur1 (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Like Hillary would Need a Karl Rove |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Don't even accuse anyone |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. 'you have to admit she's her own woman when it comes to decisions' |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #45 |
68. right, she will not be able to plead out during any future criminal hearings |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Are the other campaign managers union busters? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. This is bothering you, obviously. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. 'Good.' |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:13 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Some of us are still naive enough to have ideals. |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
46. self-delete/ |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
50. Good for Al Gore. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
52. That's because Gore has ideals, and Hillary just wants the position. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Being crass, succinct and truthful simultaneously should not be allowed |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
57. Sounds like he's a big part of the success of her campaign. nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. And apparently that is all that matters to you! |
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illinoisprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-06-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. Blackwater Penn used to be a protege of Dick Morris. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 03:17 AM Response to Original message |
66. The more you study about Hillary the more you realize how much ............. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. hmmm, i never noticed the sheep's clothing. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-08-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Exactly...she's not hiding a thing. |
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Tom Joad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-07-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
67. the clinton version of Karl Rove? |
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