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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 11:03 AM
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There will be one winner!
For some candidates, this will be their second, third or fourth failed primary campaign. If your candidate loses the primary what should be his/her next move?


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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 11:22 AM
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1. I'd be happy to see my favorite candidate in many other positions.
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 11:24 AM by LWolf
It doesn't have to be POTUS. I'd start with speaker of the house; I guarantee issues would still be "on the table" if Kucinich had that position.

While I don't have to see my "favorite" in that position, I predict that there will be one "winner," and millions of losers, if a candidate well connected to the corrupt corporate Washington establishment is elected.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 11:53 AM
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2. Responding doesn't mean your candidate will lose!
Insights?
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:23 PM
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3. Take a coil of rope and wander into the woods.
Seriously. Does anyone remember Harold Stassen? For that matter, do you remember how Pat Paulsen kept his phony Presidential campaign running for years after it lost all humor (which was about fifteen minutes after he started it in 1968)?

These guys ought to simply go out and eliminate themselves from the campaign pool, permanently. It's obvious that after three runs, they don't have any positions, issues or personalities the people want or need. They just keep trying the same thing over and over again, saying "Do you like me NOW?" And the public yells back "NO!" and the candidates never take the hint.

Nixon pushed it with his "kick around" speech, then coming back. But Nixon had taken years off to re-invent himself. Al Gore, although he's willing to let the nation go down the toilet in 2008, has re-invented himself and could be a viable candidate. But the others? Naaaah.
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:37 PM
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4. Go down the toilet?
You don't think it's possible that Al Gore simply things that one or more of the Democratic candidates will do a perfectly good job?
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tomreedtoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:49 PM
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5. If Gore supported such a candidate, and didn't want to run...
...why not come out and give public support to such a person? Now? Quit playing a stupid game?

No, I think he wants America to descend into Hell, especially since everyone who now wants him as the Savior of the Democratic Party gave him such crap in 2000.

I think he is upset and sick at the Democratic Party for having no spines; he regrew his, after his devastating loss. He recognized something was wrong with his approach and did something about it for his personal life. But he doesn't want to be the only spine in the Party. He's seeing a lot of people begging him to put his face in the meat grinder again, with no party support, and I think he wants to give them all a big, single uplifted finger.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 12:56 PM
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6. Fact check on "second, third or fourth failed primary campaign"
"For some candidates, this will be their second, third or fourth failed primary campaign."

Clinton - 1st
Obama - 1st
Edwards - 2nd
Biden - 2nd (first was 20 years ago)
Dodd - 1st
Kucinich - 2nd
Gravel - 1st
Richardson - 1st

Or are you talking about the Republicans?

Nope, this is the first run for hte Republican nomination for all of them except McCain and Paul. Where on earth are you getting your facts?

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:03 PM
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7. I didn't check, and wanted to make sure everyone was covered. I thought Biden was on his third.
Still, does it matter? On edit:

For some candidates, this will be their second failed primary campaign.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:23 PM
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9. Yes, facts matter. What is your problem with democracy? What is your problem with facts?
Your point is that Biden is wasting his time because 20 years ago he didn't win under entirely different circumstances and that Edwards and Kucinich, who each represent unique voices in the party during this campaign and speak for millions of supporters are also wasting their time because they each ran before and never got nominated.

I would like to remind you that this is a process about picking our country's leader and people voicing their concerns about where our nation is headed. You apparently have it confused with March Madness playoffs. But of course even in the NCAA teams that get eliminated get to come back the next year and try again.

With all due respect, ProSense, you don't seem to have a point.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:37 PM
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10. It was an impromptu question, the facts don't alter or impact the question.
Edited on Sat Oct-06-07 01:37 PM by ProSense
The number in this case is irrelevant. I could have said: for some this will be their (fill in a number) failed campaign.

My point is: What should the losing candidates next move be?

Are you going to address the question?

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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-06-07 01:05 PM
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8. Endorse the winner. nt
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