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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:19 PM Original message |
A Populist Make-Over,Meet John Edwards, the Corporate Man |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great hit piece. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. wasn't meant as one, sorry if you take it that way. |
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Padraig18 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Dissident Voice is the left's answer to Drudge. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. They slammed Clark pretty hard |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:35 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. like I said.. |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:03 PM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Yes, I understand |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 11:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
92. Doug Ireland writes regularly for the Nation |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. that's simply untrue. There have been many, many links |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. or you can |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. You don't mind a website that advocates anarchism and attacks Clark? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 11:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
93. Doug Ireland wrote this for LA Weekly. |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ah, yes, Dissident Voice, the finest in commentary...not |
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JohnLocke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. 'Interesting' things on its Front Page |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
3. Nice hit piece. Really nice. |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:31 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. It must be sad, |
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displacedtexan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. So, Johnny's dad was the Fred Thompson character in Roseanne? |
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spooky3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'll let others tear this apart line by line |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. hmmmm, doesn't seem to be anyone .. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Ah the negativity. |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. No, it's not laughable. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I keep on hearing the same thing in these negetive threads. |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. That is the point. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I am really getting sick of this of these biased articles. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. That is where you come in |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Where "I come in". |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:58 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. It never hurts to show facts! |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. The awful Truth About Wes Clark (an article from the dissident voice) |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
66. They only reran the article, look at post 50 ... |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
16. One thing that bothers me.. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I agree with alot of what you said |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Five of my closest friends are lawyers. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. It is not that he is a lawyer. |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. To some, it is just that. |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. Your friends may very well be lhornorableawyers |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Where on earth do you get your facts? |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. personal experiance |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:17 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Wow, you're that old? Whoulda thunk it! |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. read my original post |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:09 AM Response to Reply #57 |
64. I read your post, so what? |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Well you better start convincing the rest of America |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. Trust me, I am |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 02:28 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. wow really? |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 03:01 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Yep...my motto: "changing one ignorant person's mind at a time" |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:03 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. your not going dictate the direction of this thread! |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I think I already have. |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
71. whats the point |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. The point is that you have to make a cogent argument to be understood |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:59 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. If you will notice in my original post |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 02:46 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. I read the article |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 03:59 PM Response to Reply #76 |
78. this is ridicilous |
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kanrok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:19 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. Okay, you win |
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billhos (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. actaully i was goig to cede the argument too |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:00 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Deleted message |
westcoastbias (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
18. Where is "lifted from poverty" source |
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patricia92243 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. All politicians "dress up"their resumes' -Edwards has done that. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. pretty broad statement but |
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mlawson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:54 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Ah, but it's only a 'bad' thing, when he does it... |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
28. Piece originally appeared in LA Weekly. Doug Ireland - impecable |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. So this smear crap is allowed but |
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OKNancy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:09 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. I'm just glad I already voted because |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:26 PM Original message |
Ireland pieces on Joe, Kerry, Dean were all on DU |
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anti-NAFTA (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
41. Don't put words in my mouth. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 12:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
73. you can't refer to facts... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 11:47 PM Response to Reply #29 |
95. Edwards is closer to the other evil in my book. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. Wow. Divisive. His dad wasn't middle-class *enough* for the author. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. wait just a second! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. He did grow up struggling financially. Did Kerry's partents every have to |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. this post isn't about Kerry! |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It's about how the typical American experiences life in America |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Stay on topic and refute if this so bothers you. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:31 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Compare Kerry to Edwards. Who grew up middle class, working class, or rich |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. This article refutes itself. It doesn't bother me at all. It's hysterics. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I agree look at my post #27. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
33. This reminds me of something I read about Mick Jones of the Clash. |
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kodi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
47. isnt this the site that found jesus a bit overrated? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Doug Ireland does sneer, it's true |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:54 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. look at post 50 |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Yeah |
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elsiesummers (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
48. I read that his parents lived in public housing |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
50. Here is the link from where this article originally appeared. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
58. LA Weekly has a very enthusiastic cover story on Edwards this week. |
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littlejoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
59. From the moment I first saw Edwards, I could smell the |
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HoosierClarkie (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Well, |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 07:30 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. very good point! |
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DiverDave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-18-04 09:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Oh give me a break |
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HFishbine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
68. The bottom line |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 09:27 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Bingo! |
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katieforeman (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
80. This post wreaks of bitterness. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. bitterness or truth? |
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katieforeman (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:41 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Bitterness. |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 04:59 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. based on what? |
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katieforeman (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-20-04 01:29 AM Response to Reply #85 |
96. Clark lost |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-20-04 07:44 AM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Clark left not lost! |
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katieforeman (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-20-04 04:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. Clark left which means he lost. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:32 PM Response to Reply #80 |
90. I don't care if he were born in a manger. He voted for the |
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efront (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
88. Ahhhh, bitter little Clarkies..... |
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jpgpenn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 08:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. LOL, I take it you didn't like the article either? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 11:12 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Wanting To Get A Candidate Who Wouldn't Be Captive To Advisors |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-19-04 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
94. Glad you posted this |
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