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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:34 PM
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How can Edwards win?
His strategy is to continue to cherry pick and try to win Georgia, New York, and Ohio on Super Tuesday. Even if he wins all three of those states, what good does it do him if Kerry is close behind. Delegates are handed out proportionally, not winner take all.

Kerry is likely to win the 7 other primaries that day, including the big one -- California.

I just don't see how Edwards can win, barring some major new gaffe or scandal from Kerry.
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anti-NAFTA Donating Member (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:37 PM
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1. I'm trying to give him some momentum.
Too bad so many people here are blinded by their tears over Dean and Clark that they can't see what a Kerry nomination would signify.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:38 PM
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2. Good answers here
on this thread from earlier today:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=356689

I bumped it up to the first page too.

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wtf Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:45 PM
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7. a better question is..
Edited on Wed Feb-18-04 07:46 PM by wtf
how can Kerry win? His own democratic supporters aren't even very passionate about him. Just look at this board, sure there are people who like him, even like him a lot, but how many of them are inspired by him, or passionate about him? If it's Kerry vs Bush, it'll just be Gore vs Bush, a close race and who knows what will happen. Democrats, independents, and even some moderate or *real* conservatives like Edwards. Basically, Edwards can win for the same reason Kerry can't, broad appeal.
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ringmastery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:46 PM
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8. This board is not an accurate
reflection of real life.

The real world isn't made up of political junkies.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:51 PM
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13. a better question is, how can Kerry lose.
He's run like a champ through the entire primary season so far. No other candidate has come close to matching his appeal in every state he's won. That's because he reflects the values and attributes that most mainstream Democrats want in a President. There is no one better prepared to be President...hell, he could move in tomorrow and immediately be more competent than the loser that occupys the WH now.

Kerry vs. Bush is the best match-up for us. Bush loses on the national security/leadership issue, period. I doubt if he he bothers to even show up to debate. I guess that leaves the economy for Bush to run on.

Hey, I think John Edwards is a very good candidate and I have no issues with his campaign....I just don't see how one can believe that Edwards can possibly run stronger than Kerry against the Republicans. The facts don't support it.
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bushalert Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:41 PM
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3. Edwards can't win
JDE simply does not have enough money or organization to compete with Kerry. However, he might make a great running mate.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:43 PM
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5. When you write Edwards off
that's when he'll suprised you the most.

Just ask Kerry. He look positvely floored last night.

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Taeger Donating Member (914 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:43 PM
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4. Trade !!!!

Basically, he needs to adopt Kucinich's platform on trade. Keep hammering it home.

If someone asks him what his favorite color he should say:

"My favorite color along with America is being undermined by quasi-governmental international organization like NAFTA and WTO. BTW, it's blue."

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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:42 PM
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11. Yeh! that's the ticket!
adopt a Kucinich platform...NOW it's electable

:eyes:

give credit where credit is due...

dp
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:44 PM
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6. Hopes Limbaugh + other Bushies will stick with him?

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/WI/index.html


Voters who are satisfied with the Bush Administration:
52% Edwards, 23% Kerry

Voters who are enthusiastic about * Administration:
33% Edwards, 10% Kerry

Conservatives voted Edwards, pro-Iraq voted Edwards

Those who are looking to beat Bush:
28% Edwards, 59% Kerry.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:57 PM
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17. That exit polling data ought to be a very sobering fact to anyone who
wants to spin last night's results.

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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:47 PM
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9. Many candidates have gone farther into the season than this,
before they 'take off'. Carter's luck changed with WI in 1976. In 1992, Clinton was just catching fire.

IFF, last night in WI was indeed a turning point for Edwards, and IF the DNC will allow the process to run its course without interferring, Edwards could indeed begin winning primaries left and right now.

Those are big IFs, especially the second one. But I have some hope, now.
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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 07:51 PM
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10. The way anyone wins is by voters deciding
I think Kerry will win, but if Edwards wins I will gladly support him 100%.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:47 PM
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12. He cant win. He won't even come close.
Kerry has won more southern states than Edwards, and after Super Tuesday it will be all over. The only reason he did well in Wisconsin, was because repugs were trying to derail Kerry.
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:52 PM
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14. I wouldn't be surprised if Kerry didn't win another Southern state, and I'
woudl be surprised if he could the ones he won again if they went back to them with the current field of candidates.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:30 PM
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20. The surprise will be if Edwards is still a viable candidate after Super Tu
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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:54 PM
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15. Wisconsin was the tipping point!
Edwards will do extremely well on Super Tuesday, and the next week will follow up on Southern Tuesday.

Just look at the numbers, Kerry mathematically cannot win the nomination even after Super Tuesday. There's still many votes to be cast and Edwards is not quitting.

Follow that up with the Southern Tuesday in Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, and Florida. Kerry could be reeling by then. The next week the campaign moves into the single state calander, with usually no more than a single state primary taking place. The 16th will be Illinois, where Edwards' message will do VERY well.

There are also a number of delegates that are outstanding because of the departure of Clark, and Dean.

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arewethereyet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:56 PM
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16. how can he lose is the better question !
he's got the winning message and he can sure as shootin deliver it !
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 09:02 PM
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19. Plus Kerry needs some energy!
I like the guy okay, but he's got to STOP the metronome quality in his speechifying.

I liked Al Gore too, but he had the same deal.

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lurk_no_more Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-18-04 08:59 PM
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18. He can't win?
:shrug:



And then there were none!
” JAFO”

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