Hypothetical Presidential Poll; Hillary Vs. Pelosi

[saracat]

These woman seem to be our most controversial Democrats on DU so I just wondered how people would split up if they had top choose between them.

[Hawkowl]

1. Neither. nt

[saracat]

2. Thanks for the honest answer!

[robinlynne]

3. They are both controversial for identical reasons: selling out to the republicans.

[saracat]

4. it is interesting to see that so far, for all the hostility to Hillary, myself included

that some like Nancy less. I can understand why folks wouldn't want either but this is a curiosity.

[robinlynne]

6. because pelosi is actually up there doing harm right now day after day?

[monktonman]

5. I'd rather vote for my dirty sneakers n/t

[Rhythm and Blue]

7. Do you have any idea how many crucial votes your sneakers have missed?

Total sellouts.

[monktonman]

9. Sure blame everything on my dirty sneakers

Next thing you know you'll be saying
my dirty sneakers are conspiring with my smelly underwear
to burn the constitution.

[PurityOfEssence]

8. I suppose Senator Clinton CAN fight against the right-wing machine, but will she ever?

She hasn't really yet.

[wyldwolf]

10. Notice the reply, folks. "She hasn't REALLY yet." Here's what that means...

You might say Hillary did_________________.

But PurityOfEssence would say that isn't REALLY fighting back.

PurityOfEssence is standing poised at the goal posts waiting to move them to make sure your winning kick sails wide left or right.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Pelosi has shown she is a miserable failure as a leader.

I voted for Hillary who, despite her faults, did not use the power of her position to say "impeachment is off the table," and blocked the House from doing anything on impeachment.

[saracat]

12. Well but do you have any reason to suppose Hillary would support such an action?

[IndianaGreen]

13. I don't think Hillary will do anything to offend the Bush clan or jeopardize Bill's bond with Poppy

but for the purposes of the OP poll, Pelosi holds the most powerful position in the Congress, while Hillary is just one out of one hundred Senators. Pelosi is the one that has repeatedly failed to exercise her Speakership on behalf of the people, instead she has given ground to Bush over and over again.

[saracat]

14. But she did vote against the war. .It is more than Hillary did.

And Hillary has reinforced her position with the Kyl/Liberman vote.And still sees nothing wrong with her Iraq vote.I understand what you are saying but it boils down to a known vs,unknown.Hillary is "known" for her support of the war while Nancy, though she has been unable to curatail the war, is on record as opposing it. Again, just saying.I am not saying you are wrong.

[IndianaGreen]

17. The most critical issue is not the war, but the loss of freedoms at home

The mass violations of our civil liberties and the sacking of the Constitution by our budding dictator Bush stem from the post 9-11 rush by Congress to surrender its Constitutional responsibilities and throwing our liberties under the neocon bus.

The war is the pretext they use to justify the establishment of a police state apparatus, all of it to "protect" us from the latest incarnation of an Orwellian Emmanuel Goldstein.

Stopping the war is very important, as is preventing the next war, but it is the restoration of our freedoms that trumps everything else.

Pelosi's failure to uphold her oath of office by putting impeachment "off the table" is a bigger failure than Hillary voting for the war. Impeachment is not optional when the President himself has admitted that he broke the law, as he did on FISA. To give Bush a pass on his law breaking is tantamount to treason!

[saracat]

18. Interesting argument Indiana green.Thank you.

Edit for typo!

[Solon]

15. Neither...

Pelosi seems to show a lack of leadership skill, and backbone, Hillary shows inexperience in regards to foreign policy(vote for war based on lies) and also a lack of a backbone.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. If Hillary Was From A Safe District And All She Aspired To Be Was Speaker Of The House

She would be ripping Bush* a new asshole now...

[AtomicKitten]

19. After listening to Nancy Pelosi tell Ed Schultz that impeachment is off the table

today on AA ... I'd have to say neither.