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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:01 PM
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Clinton’s national 401(k) plan includes government match
http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/clintons-national-401k-plan-includes-government-match-2007-10-09.html

Clinton’s national 401(k) plan includes government match
By Klaus Marre
October 09, 2007

Citing the success of 401(k) retirement accounts, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) proposed a plan Tuesday that would allow all Americans to participate in such a plan and get up to $1,000 annually in federal matching funds in the form of a tax cut.

“My plan will help tens of millions of middle-class families go from just getting by to getting ahead,” Clinton said in announcing the plan at a campaign stop in Webster City, Iowa.

The former first lady was careful not to package the proposal in a way that would allow opponents to accuse her of trying to put in place a government-controlled program for the successful private-industry 401(k) program.

“The new American retirement accounts will build upon and strengthen the existing employer-based retirement savings systems,” Clinton, the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination, said. “If you like your current retirement savings options, you keep them as they are.”

The senator noted that data show that people with such accounts are more likely to build a nest egg and that “automatic enrollment, direct deposit diversified investment options” have proven to help people save.

Specifically, Clinton’s plan would provide a dollar-for-dollar match annually up to the first $1,000 saved to families earning up to $60,000 a year. For those earning up to $100,000 annually, there would be a matching tax cut of $500.

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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:31 PM
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1. So Senator Clinton is now pushing a program like TSP
The government employees Thrift Savings Program, which allows for a matching contribution from the employer.

You can see the website at http://www.tsp.gov
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 03:38 PM
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2. It Takes a Village to Raise a Nation.
:patriot:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:04 PM
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3. If there is that much money around...let's secure Social Security.
Let's keep the program in place that helped pull the people of America out of the Great Depression.

People can save on their own. This is the New Democrats meddling in Social Security.

If they start cutting SS, all you young folks will have to come up with extra money for your aging parents. Are you ready for that?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:33 PM
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9. So are you saying thats what Hillary will do?
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:37 PM
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10. I think it is opening the door...
that should not be opened.

The DLC of which she is a leader has a history of wanting to gradually privatize Social Security.

I think it is a step in that direction.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:40 PM
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11. This is from her Senate web site.
Social Security has been our nation's most successful domestic program, protecting millions of Americans from poverty due to old age, death and disability. Since its inception in 1935, Social Security has guaranteed a life-long, inflation-protected defined benefit that families can rely on. The task before us now is to ensure the long-term health of the Social Security program.

I think it is essential that the Administration and Congress take the necessary steps to secure the solvency of this important program for current and future retirees. As we review the options for strengthening Social Security, it is important that we acknowledge the advantages that are built into the existing system. Social Security benefits are progressive, recognizing that workers with low earnings or women who take time out of the workforce, have little opportunity to save. In addition, Social Security is almost completely universal, offering workers a nearly perfect portable pension. Finally, monthly Social Security benefits are dependable and protected by law.

The President’s proposal for private accounts would substitute Social Security’s long-standing promise of guaranteed, lifetime, inflation-protected benefits for benefits that would be tied to the fluctuations of the stock market. I oppose his idea to divert money from the Social Security program to establish private accounts. There are several key reasons why replacing Social Security with a privatized system would be harmful for Americans. First, privatization leaves retirees vulnerable to stock market fluctuations or poor individual investment decisions. Second, the current Social Security system is progressive and assists women and families by indexing benefits to those who earn less. Women especially would be disadvantaged by a privatized system because they would have lower annual account deposits and would likely lose the advantage of spousal benefits. Third, fully one-third of payroll taxes are used to cover disabled workers and survivors. It is uncertain how the federal government could afford to pay these benefits if a percentage of the payroll tax is diverted into individual accounts. Finally, the projected cost of changing to a privatized system while continuing to pay current benefits is estimated to be several trillion dollars in just the first decade, an unfunded liability that we can not afford.

http://clinton.senate.gov/issues/seniors/
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:06 PM
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4. The main problem is
that the poorest can not afford to put anything in to get the matching funds.

Plus it sounds like she is adding more complexity to our tax system, which it simply does not need.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:07 PM
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5. That was my thought, too. This wouldn't apply to many people who
don't have extra funds to throw into a 401(k) because they're just trying to survive.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:30 PM
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6. I dunno, babylonsister
If a family, even a poor family, except for those entirely destitute, understood that by saving $10 a month they could double that investment every year for their retirement, it sounds like a pretty good incentive.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:32 PM
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7. Could an employer contribute and have the govt match?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:32 PM
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8. Saving $240 per year might not be much of an incentive when the
car breaks down or that last slice of bread is gone. I'm very thankfully not in that position, but I know there are people who are.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:43 PM
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12. Yeah, like me, I'm in that position
I made a mistake. I meant $100 a month. I know it wouldn't do for those extremely strapped, but a whole lot of people could save $25/week if they knew it was coming back to them after a year and would be building a retirement account at the same time. It's not for everyone, I see that, but I don't think it's a bad idea as one of the ways to ensure retirement. As it is now, only those who can afford to invest in a 401K ever get one. This would expand accessibility significantly, I think.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:47 PM
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13. Encouraging savings in a population that is overextended on credit is a good thing
It is by no means a perfect vehicle for that but like you said this could expand the 401K pool significantly.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:54 PM
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15. Is it a refundable tax credit like the EIC....
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 05:28 PM
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17. $10 a month ain't shit.
This plan is privatized social security.

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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 05:38 PM
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18. It is not replacing SS.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-10-07 03:44 PM
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19. Do you even know what time it is?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 04:52 PM
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14. People can already donate to IRA's which, in case Hillary didn't
know or is counting on people to think a 401k is better, and get the same tax benefit already...

I'm sorry, but does she really think that village is full of idoits...
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-09-07 05:18 PM
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16. Here's the campaign's press release.

10/9/2007
Hillary Clinton’s American Retirement Accounts Plan: A 401(k) Plan For All Americans

Today, Hillary Clinton announced a bold new American Retirement Accounts plan with generous matching tax cuts that—alongside her efforts to strengthen defined benefit pension plans—will help tens of millions of middle class families build wealth for their future. Building on her commitment to protect the guaranteed benefit of Social Security, Hillary’s American Retirement Accounts plan will tackle the current retirement savings crisis by helping ensure that all Americans can afford a dignified retirement.

Under the plan, working and middle class families who currently have the hardest time saving will get generous matching tax cuts as an incentive to save. And all Americans will get to open new American Retirement Accounts that will be designed to provide no-hassle, portable savings throughout their careers. In essence, the plan will provide universal access to a generous 401(k) for all Americans.

“I believe it’s time for a new bargain with the American people – a bargain that reflects the changing global economy and the new realities of aging. I believe that if you work hard and contribute to our country, you should have the opportunity to save and invest. And through the discipline of good planning and the miracle of compound interest, you should be able to build wealth for yourself, a better future for your family, and a secure retirement,” Clinton said.

“That’s why today I’m announcing my plan to provide every single American with an easy, automatic opportunity to save for the future through a new account I’m calling an American Retirement Account. These accounts will take the best of 401(k) plans – and make it available to every working family in America.

“They will help those who are currently falling through the cracks of our system, while reducing wealth inequality, increasing national savings, and encouraging economic growth. And they will ensure all Americans can save and build wealth for their retirement. This is a major commitment to ensuring a secure retirement for all Americans.

“My plan will help tens of millions of middle class families go from just getting by to getting ahead – putting them on a path to a secure retirement.”

Hillary’s American Retirements Account plan will:

* Offer matching tax cuts of up to $500 and $1000 to help middle class and working families save
* Establish new “American Retirement Accounts” that allow families to save for retirement in a way that is easy, secure and portable
* Encourage all employers to allow no-hassle, direct deposit enrollment into American Retirement Accounts
* Reduce disincentives to saving by removing asset-tests for moderate income families to contribute to American Retirement Accounts
* Freeze the estate tax at 2009 levels to pay for matching tax cuts for middle-class savings

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Hillary Clinton’s American Retirement Accounts Plan

The Challenge: When it comes to defined contribution plans, we know what works to help families save for retirement. We know that when people have access to retirement accounts that provide generous matching incentives and that make saving easy and secure—with automatic enrollment, direct deposit options from workers paychecks and secure diversified investment options—they are more likely to build solid nest-eggs for their future. Yet today, more than half of Americans each year are not able to benefit from an easy, secure and generous retirement account. As a result, there are huge holes in our retirement savings system:

* Over 75 million workers each year have no employer sponsored pension. This includes 77% of small business employees; 77% of part time workers; 73% of Hispanics; 59% of women and 56% of African Americans.

* Among households nearing retirement, half have $15,000 or less in a 401(k) or IRA type plan. . Nearly a third—and 39% of African American and Hispanic households—do not have enough retirement savings, including Social Security, to replace even half of their income in retirement.

* Rather than helping these families, our system for encouraging retirement savings is upside-down. By relying on tax deductibility, an employee in the 35% bracket gets 35 cents for every dollar he saves; while an employee in the 10% bracket gets only 10 cents. The result: of the nearly $200 billion a year the U.S. spends to encourage retirement savings, about half goes to the top 10% of earners, while 10% goes to the bottom 60%.

* This upside-down system, with so many families falling through the cracks, has contributed to America’s abysmally low private savings rate. In 2006, the private savings rate fell to its lowest level since the great depression.

A Solution: Hillary’s American Retirement Accounts Plan. Hillary believes that we need to take head-on this national retirement savings crisis by giving all Americans an opportunity to save and build wealth for retirement that is as easy, secure and generous as is offered by good employer-sponsored 401(k)s. Her American Retirement Accounts Plan will give that chance to the tens of millions of Americans who are currently falling through the cracks while reducing wealth inequality, increasing national savings, and encouraging economic growth. Under the plan, working and middle class families who currently have the hardest time saving will get generous matching tax cuts as an incentive to save. And all middle class Americans will get to open new American Retirement Accounts that will be designed to provide no-hassle, portable savings throughout their careers. In essence, the plan will provide universal access to a generous 401(k) for all Americans.

Key Components of Hillary Clinton’s
American Retirement Accounts Plan

1. Matching Tax Cuts to Help Middle Class and Working Families Save: This new proposal will provide a matching refundable tax credit—dollar-for-dollar—for the first $1,000 of savings done by every married couple making up to $60,000. The plan will provide a 50% match on the first $1000 of savings for every couple making between $60,000 and $100,000, which will be phased out after that. This matching tax credit will be available to all Americans in existing 401(k) type accounts as well as the new American Retirement Accounts. That means tens of millions of middle-class families will get matching tax cuts of up to $500 and $1000 to help them build a nest egg for retirement.

2. A New “American Retirement Account”: Like Hillary’s approach to health care, her American Retirement Account plan will build off the existing employer-based retirement savings system. Those who like their current retirement savings accounts can keep them —the only change is that they may be eligible for generous new matching tax credits. For those who want a new choice, Senator Clinton will let all middle class Americans open a new American Retirement Account. These accounts will allow individuals to contribute up to $5,000 per year on a tax-deferred basis. The first $1000 contributed into the accounts will be eligible for the new 1-to-1 and 50% government matches. In addition, the new American Retirement Accounts will:

* Offer secure, diversified investment options: Individuals will have the choice to set-up their accounts with any private provider that offers diversified investment options and that includes as a default option, a passively managed lifecycle-type fund. Individuals will also have a fall-back option of setting up accounts through a similar system to the one that Members of Congress currently utilize.

* Help Build Wealth and Provide a Cushion During Economic Downturns: The new American Retirement Accounts would, like existing IRAs, limit penalty-free withdrawals to major life investments—buying a home, paying for higher education, and retirement. But in light of the growing economic uncertainty facing American families, workers will also be able to withdraw 10-15% of the savings from their American Retirement Accounts to help tide them through periods of extended unemployment. Individuals would also have the option of taking out loans from their American Retirement Accounts in limited circumstances.

* Provide the First Fully Portable Matching Account: The American Retirement Account will be the first account that provides a secure, diversified opportunity to get generous matching financial incentives for saving regardless of whether you are working for a firm that provides an employer match or traditional 401(k). This is particularly important to middle class workers who start their own businesses, take time off to care for a child or relative, or work independently or part-time. Hilary does not believe that we should deny matching retirement incentives to these workers and parents simply because they are outside the employer-sponsored system. Rather than having to rely on full-time jobs with certain employers, these Americans will continue to receive a strong financial incentive to build wealth throughout their lives.

* New Choices Without New Bureaucracy: American Retirement Accounts will be established without any new government bureaucracy, by creating competition in the private sector to provide plans that are both secure and marketable. Individuals will get to choose how they want to set up their American Retirement Accounts. They can set them up with private providers who offer diversified investment options with a default passively managed lifecycle-type option and low administrative costs. Or they will have an option of opening an American Retirement Account through a publicly managed clearinghouse similar to the Thrift Savings Plan which Members of Congress can currently utilize. Investments in the accounts opened through this public clearinghouse would be held and managed by private financial institutions, who to the greatest extent possible would manage administrative and transactional support.

3. No-Hassle Direct Deposit Savings into New American Retirement Accounts: To ensure that the 75 million workers currently falling through the cracks of our savings system not only have access to a new American Retirement Account but can save in a way that is easy and automatic, Hillary’s plan will encourage all employers to provide their employees with the option to directly deposit a portion of their salaries into the new American Retirement Accounts – and automatically deposit savings unless their workers opt-out. First, the new government matches will themselves take an important step in that direction by giving employers a strong incentive to make it easy for their rank-and-file workers to begin saving—and give employees new reason to request this option from their employers. Second, while for the large majority of firms that already employ payroll deposit systems, the cost of providing employees with the option to direct a portion of their salary into a new American Retirement Account will be negligible, Hillary’s plan will offer new tax credits to help small businesses offset the start-up costs of getting their employees saving. She will double the existing tax credit to $1,000 for the first year that a small employer offers a qualified retirement plan to its employees, and create a new $500-per-year tax credit for the first three years that a small employer provides direct deposit options to its employees. Finally, Hillary will streamline the filing system for employers to make it as easy and automatic as possible for them to claim these tax credits and provide new savings options for their employees.

* Automatic Savings Options for Self Employed Workers: In addition to ensuring that more employees can benefit from automatic payroll deposits into American Retirement Accounts, Hillary’s plan will work with Congress, financial institutions and community groups to make it easy for the self-employed and others outside of the employer-based system to put their savings on auto-pilot through easier access to electronic automatic debit arrangements.

4. Reforming the Asset Tests that Force Moderate-Income Families to Choose Between Retirement Savings and Receiving Benefits like Food Stamps. In addition to providing generous new incentives for working families to save, Hillary’s American Retirement Accounts plan will reduce disincentives to save that exist in our retirement system. Unfortunately, current policy actually penalizes lower-income families who want to save for retirement, by disqualifying them for means-tested benefit programs like food stamps, SSI, and Medicaid. Hillary’s plan will reform existing asset tests to exempt retirement account balances—including in existing 401(k)s and IRAs and in new American Retirement Accounts—for means-tested benefit programs. This will ensure that working families who are already struggling to save will no longer have to choose between saving for retirement and receiving key benefits and income supports. Nor will they be forced to liquidate retirement savings if they hit hard times.

5. A Fiscally Responsible Plan to Provide a 5000-to-1 Tax Cut for Wealth Creation: The cost of the generous matching tax cuts to middle income families in Hillary’s American Retirement Accounts plan would be about $20-$25 billion per year. Hillary will finance these tax cuts without increasing the deficit by dedicating a portion of the revenue from freezing the estate tax at its 2009 level of $7 million per couple. According to the Joint Committee on Taxation, freezing the estate tax at that level and avoiding outright repeal generates more than $400 billion over ten years. By devoting a portion of these resources to fund the matching tax cuts in the American Retirement Accounts plan, Hillary will be avoiding a further tax cut for 10,000 of the wealthiest estates in the U.S. in order to give tens of millions of families a tax cut to help build their own nest egg for retirement. If 50 million households benefit from the matching tax credits in the American Retirement Account, that would mean that for every 1 wealthy estate facing a less generous estate tax exemption, at least 5,000 middle class families would receive a tax cut that will help them save, invest and one day own an estate of their own.

* Positive Impact on Private and Net National Saving: The American Retirement Accounts plan will help increase both our anemic national and private saving rates. Unlike consumption oriented tax cuts that can reduce national saving if not fully-paid for, the matching credits in the American Retirement Accounts plan will result in an increase in national and private saving. First, the matching tax credits will be directly saved in retirement accounts and therefore have no negative impact on national saving. Yet, most important, tens of millions of Americans will only receive these matching tax credits if they are committing to new and additional savings. As a result, whereas savings incentives for the well-off typically lead to a shift in savings to tax-favored accounts, the matching tax cuts in the American Retirement Accounts will encourage families to begin saving or to save more – thus leveraging in additional private savings and making a positive contribution to net national saving as well. The private saving rate in the US is near its lowest level since the 1930s. And according to Eugene Steuerle of the Urban Institute, if the bottom half of Americans saved only $500 more a year, it would increase national saving by 26%. Thus, if a far greater share of Americans than expected respond to the new matching incentives in the American Retirement Accounts by saving more—while it might require additional offsets to make the proposal budget neutral—this higher take up rate would mean a higher increase in national saving and thus represent a high-class problem to deal with.

6. Moving Forward to Secure Retirement Savings For All Americans: Hilary looks forward to working with families, pension, labor and savings experts and members of Congress—including the chairmen and members of the tax writing committees—during this campaign and in the White House to ensure that the American Retirement Accounts plan includes the best ideas and the right details to make it as effective as possible. She will work to implement her plan to make 401(k)s universal alongside her strong commitment to strengthen defined benefit pensions and to protect Social Security’s guaranteed risk-free benefits.



http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=3632
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