If Bill Clinton wasn't hated so much by Republicans would Gore have won easily in 2000?

[Dawgs]

[MadMaddie]

1. No...the Rethuglicans want a theocracy....and they know the

only way they can do it...is to elect another Rethuglican..

[NancyBreen]

15. Didn't Al Gore win? Oh, that's right the Supreme Court says he didn't.

[Thothmes]

23. says he didn't

Actually it was the Electoral College that said he didn't win.

[question everything]

34. No. The final counts of the Florida votes

done long after the Supreme Court decision, still gave Bush the majority.

The issue was not the Florida votes but the access, rather lack of, to the polling stations by many would be Democratic voters.

[LoZoccolo]

2. No; Bill Clinton's impeachment brought his approval ratings up.

He also had the highest end-of-term approval rating of any President since World War II: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/politics/DailyNews/poll_clintonlegacy010117.html

[AlGore-08.com]

27. Please read your own link: he had "truly dismal personal ratings", and that's what mattered in 2000

From your own link:

'Yet this is also a president with truly dismal personal ratings: Sixty-seven percent of Americans say he's not honest and trustworthy. Seventy-seven percent say he lacks high moral and ethical standards. And just 44 percent view him favorably "as a person."'

Some more polls from August of 2000:


http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/06/cnn.time.poll/index.html

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 4-5
Favorable Ratings
Former President Bush 73%
Hillary Clinton 45
Bill Clinton 42

Sampling error: +/-3% pts

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 4-5
Whose Opinions Do You Respect More?
Former President Bush 61%
Bill Clinton 34

Sampling error: +/-3% pts

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 4-5
Who Would You Vote For?
Former President Bush 53%
Bill Clinton 42

Sampling error: +/-3% pts


http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/13/cnn.poll/

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 11-12

Does Vice President Al Gore's ties with President Bill Clinton make you feel more favorably toward Gore or less favorably toward Gore, or do they have no effect on your view of him?

More favorable 7%
Less favorable 32
No effect 60

Sampling error: +/-3% pts


CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 11-12

If the Democratic nomination for president were still being decided and if Bill Clinton could run again, would you rather see the Democrats nominate Al Gore or Bill Clinton for president?

Gore Clinton
Democrats 48% 46%
Independents 52 29
Republicans 58 12

Sampling error: +/-6% pts

CNN/USA TODAY/GALLUP POLL
August 11-12

Please tell me whether you think Al Gore, if elected in November, would do a better job, about the same, or not as good a job as President Clinton in handling the job of president.

Economy Moral Leadership
Better 16% 58%
Worse 17 12
Same 60 27

Sampling error: +/-3% pts


http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/08/11/cnn.poll/index.html

CNN/TIME POLL
August 9-10
Is Gore too close to President Clinton?

Now 1999
Yes 49% 55%
No 45 37

Sampling error: +/-3% pts

[liberal renegade]

3. He did win.

Bush lost. Remember?

[hedgehog]

4. The key phrase is "won easily"

We would have never heard the phrase "hanging chad" if enough Democrats had come out to vote.

[silverojo]

18. Gore made two mistakes

1) Refusing to let Bill Clinton stump on his behalf
2) Picking Lie-berman as his running mate

Both moves were meant to show his conservative Democrat colors. Well, he "conserved" us right into a dictatorship.

Thanks, Al. :sarcasm:

Now, keep up your work against global warming, to pay off your karmic debt to the world for helping make it so easy for Bush to steal the presidency. :mad:

[Froward69]

14. even with diabold

[Bitwit1234]

5. Gore lost because he bought into the republicans line of bull

If he would have had Clinton to help campaign, and if he had played on the accomplishments, he might have gotten more votes to overcome the republican steal. Gore contributed to his own defeat.

[baldguy]

7. Talk about buying the GOPs line of bull...

Gore didn't lose.

[liberal renegade]

9. it would not have made any difference

the fix was in...

[daninthemoon]

13. That's my thinking. He bought into the "don't offend the religious

right, Clinton sinned" crap, and distanced himself from the man he should have embraced. And yes, Gore did in fact win the election, but these days a democrat needs to win by a large enough margin to overcome the rethuglican shenanigans.

[baldguy]

6. 'pukes don't hate Clinton because he's Clinton.

They hate Clinton - and every Democrat - because they're DEMOCRATS.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. They Hate Clinton Because He Kicked Their Asses

Some people here forget or choose to ignore that the Rethuglicans had controlled the presidency for twenty of the past twenty four years, prior to Bill becoming president...

Some people here forget or choose to ignore that Clinton was the only Democratic president since FDR to be elected in his own right in fifty years and the only Democrat beside Woodrow Wilson and FDR to be re-elected president in his own right in the entire twentieth century...

That's why they hate him... You don't hate the things you can beat... You hate the things that can beat you...

[wyldwolf]

8. why are you scared of Republicans, dawgs?

[liberal N proud]

10. Gore lost because the fix was in before any votes were cast

Remember bu$h was appointed President by SCOTUS

[Old and In the Way]

11. No...to be a Republican means you want a 1 Party State.

They hate opposition parties that keep their criminal corruption tendencies in check.

[Bumblebee]

12. I like Gore, a lot, but he did not win more easily -- and he did win --

because as a politician he is not as talented as Bill Clinton who would have won in a landslide. So this is bull just to make another approach at how unelectable Hillary is. Bill is actually a great asset to her, so let's drop this bs, whether you are for her or not.

[illinoisprogressive]

16. Bill's behavior definitely kept some dems home and indies went gop in 2000

many dems were really angry with Bill. His behavior and his caving to the gop. they did not say he was the best president the republicans ever had for nothing. he let down the party in many ways. And with the soap operas and the partisanship, many dems were just exhausted in 2000. burned out. Indies went to the gop that year being turned off by the past 8 years.
I went totally apolitical for a time around then. I just did not care anymore. alot of dems I knew back then were feeling the same way. they were just angry and disappointed and burned out.

[ChiciB1]

17. Forget This Question... GORE DID WIN!! If Asked That Question On

my death bed, the answer will still be the same! GORE WON... THE IDIOT, DECIDER and his corrupt cohorts screwed him and AMERICA!!

[Lydia Leftcoast]

19. Gore did win BUT not by a large enough margin to be theft-proof

With such a doofus for an opponent, this should have been Johnson versus Goldwater all over again.

Instead, 1/3 of voters were undecided three days before the election. Whose fault is that?

[jzodda]

20. Probably

But...

But...

But...

Since he lost by a few hundred votes what he wore the night before the election could have had as much effect, or if he didn't "sigh" in that debate, or if felt better on a day/night when he wasn't on his game during any generic speech that he made countless times. Anything could give you or lose you a few hundred votes out of millions cast so thats why the answer is probably.

[Festivito]

21. Silliness. R's irrelevant. Bought that BS. Gore won more FL votes, did NOT WIN count.

Republican hatred is irrelevant to Gore's loss that was based on finalized vote count.

Gore and handlers bought the Clinton-was-toxic RW BS. Clinton would have helped Gore's final vote and thus the final vote count toward winning. If your point is that Gore et. al. would have used Clinton to successfully win if not for the excessive RW blowhards, okay, I can see that, but there is so much more to cover, that one particular RW hatred ought be left to purer academic discussions.

P.S. Saying Gore won Florida, or the election is a semantics game, not a semantics science; it's an error. Gore won more votes in Florida and unimportantly in the whole of the country. Gore lost those votes in bad final vote counting and thusly lost the election in Florida and subsequently lost the electoral college. He lost. We all lost.

We lost a good president, and worse, we lost the undisputed right to count votes, and worst of all, lost our right to cast votes that count -- in America.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. People Forget There Were Tens Of Thousands Of Spoiled Votes In Heavily African American Precincts In

Duval County...

If everybody who intened to vote for Gore's vote was counted he would have won by a clear margin...

[Festivito]

30. Univ. of Chicago re-counted the cast votes and Gore won.

The butterfly ballot produced by a Dem who HAPPENED to become a publican a little time after the election.

The cop-warnings to intimidate voter attendance.

The millions spent to take SIMILAR names off voter roles, where thousands used to be spent, and done by a company that runs from the cameras of 60 Minutes.

Yup, spoiled ballots.

Especially the ballots that were deliberately set a little to one side so the punches would not remove the chad.

Nader.

... All irrelevant.

We did not count our votes.

And when a university did count the votes, we did not report on it.

What was reported was contorted language to make it look like we did okay, WHEN WE DID NOT DO OKAY.

ON EDIT: If Bill Clinton had been used in the election campaign, I'd bet that first count would have been in Gore's favor leaving Bush no recourse and history changed.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. I Don't Like Talking About It

As a Floridian it just pisses me off...

But I do understand why we can never forget....

[Festivito]

32. Do talk about it, and act on it. Remember that judge?

He did not have time to rule on the count for a WEEK. He should be terminated from his job.

Why be pissed? Get even.

[beaconess]

22. Gore failed to win by a sufficient margin because HE treated Clinton like crap

Had he not run away from Clinton, he would have won by a margin too large to be stolen.

Think about it: If Clinton wasn't hated enough by Republicans to keep him from winning big in 1996, it's pretty silly to assume that Clinton was so hated by Republicans that Gore - who spent most of 2000 pretending he didn't even KNOW Clinton - "lost" the election. If Bill Clinton were on the ticket in 2000, he'd have won by a landslide. Gore had only himself to blame for letting Bush and the Supreme Court steal the election from him. Clinton had nothing to do with it.

[Rhythm and Blue]

24. Actually, I'd say yes:

If Clinton hadn't been hated so much by the Republicans, Gore might have decided to allow Clinton to campaign on his behalf; he didn't want to be associated with the Clinton-Republican feuding any more than he had to be. After all, he understandably didn't want to make his campaign revolve around his predecessor. However, since Clinton had higher positives than Gore did, it just might have caused him to pick up a few thousand extra Floridian votes.

Gore's Clintophobia was one of the many, many things that had to break wrong to cost him the White House.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. It's All Speculation

But if not for the 22nd Amendment I think Clinton beats Bush* in 00 rather handily...

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[William769]

26. Dawgs, are you trying to make the comedian circuit?

[question everything]

33. No. Gore tried his best to distance himself from Clinton

especially the economic good time, the turning of the (then) worst deficit to a surplus.

It was not the Republicans that cost Gore the presidency but the leftists who chose Nader.

[truebrit71]

35. No. The Rethuglicans would STILL have rigged the election...

....the MSM was equally complict in the theft, conjuring up the concept that Al Gore and the mental midget from CT were level-pegging...just like they did in the run up to the 2004 election theft...

[truebrit71]

36. Dupe.

..hmm that was weird...hit it once and it posted twice...Agent Mike, was that you?