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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:11 PM
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Why Al Gore will not run for president in '08 (unfortunately)...
Because he thinks that solving global warming is more important than being president.

My guess. I have no inside track into Gore's mind. But I've been thinking about this a lot. Here's my analysis:

If he were to challenge the political/global corporate predator establishment's "made" candidate (Hillary), he would alienate powerful people whose cooperation he needs to slow global warming and save the planet. His candidacy would also likely expose the fraudulent vote counting system they installed for the Iraq War and other purposes (voting machines and central tabulators run on "trade secret," proprietary programming code, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations--all over the country). It IS possible to outvote the machines, in some cases. I think a Gore candidacy could blow these rigged machines away, before they catch up with it. They will try to stop him--and likely they would succeed (they have direct, secret control of the vote counts)--but not before even more Americans become aware of the rigged e-voting system. This would be another affront to the global corporate predators whom he feels that he needs to convince to stop global global warming.

In a way, it is a contest--in Gore's head (my opinion)--between democracy and saving the planet. He can run for president, and maybe help save American democracy, or he can step back, let them have their "made" president, and curry the empress's favor to stop global warming. If he opposes her, he will earn her undying enmity, and this very, VERY important matter--the fight against global warming--may be lost. If he stays above the fray--in a lofty, "wise man" position--he has a chance to get the U.S. on board. If he makes it a political fight, against the "made" monarch, he will lose both the global warming battle, and the presidency (once again).

My background is in environmental activism, and I remember joking, at one point--in the highly frustrating context of trying to get government to enforce its own environmental regulations--that what we need is a Queen, who will enforce environmental protection by fiat. It was just a joke--harking back to the days of old, when Kings were associated in peoples' minds with the fertility of the land, and when Kings literally owned the land (and in some mystical way WERE the land) and protected the land from rapacious uses (by nobles and merchants).

Well, we had a bad king installed for purposes of war and enhancing fascist/corporate power; and now we're about to have a queen installed, for consolidation of those gains, but who COULD, conceivably, order environmental protection--and, in this case, literally saving the entire planet--by fiat. And I think Gore plans to use this situation for just this purpose. He hopes to convince the Queen and her corporate sponsors to save the planet.

The reason I say that it's unfortunate is that I don't think global warming can or will be solved without democracy. Corporations LIE. It is their M.O. And whatever promises they make will be broken. They have become much, much too powerful, and accountable to no one. They must be held accountable, and strongly regulated--and, in some cases, busted (their corporate charters pulled, their assets seized for the common good). And the only way that can happen is in the context of democracy, by the will of the people. Further, I have experience of how Bill Clinton's EPA worked (or, rather, didn't work)--that is, the insincerity of his policies--and Hillary has given us no reason to believe that she will be any better. The Clintons' environmental policies are shuckin jive. Gore knows them better than anyone, and is surely not naive on the difficulties of forcing corporations into the drastic changes needed to save the planet. But I think he's betting that he can do more to solve this crisis by gliding with the establishment, rather than challenging them head on.

I could be wrong. I hope I'm wrong--because I firmly believe that there is no "working with" the global corporate predators who have destroyed our democracy, in their greed for oil, power and ungodly profits. Accountability to the people is the only way to bring them to heel. We've lost that, and we must get it back--first of all by restoring transparent vote counting--or it's all over for us, our democracy and the planet (given the U.S.'s outsized--25%--contribution to global warming).

And I think that a Gore candidacy would go some way to restore democracy in this country. It would be a "Restoration" of the proper order of things. He won in 2000. He was the peoples' choice. Almost everybody knows that by now. And we would all be infinitely better off if the Bushites and the Supreme Court hadn't stolen that election. (And, interestingly, Dan Rather has recently revealed that one of the big e-voting companies--ES&S, brethren to Diebold--was involved in setting up the "hanging chad" business. See Rather's "The Trouble with Touchscreens" at www.HD.net.) It would be a great relief to the people of this country--and a great energizer of democracy--if that wrong was remedied by a successful Gore run in '08. (Can you just imagine? There would be dancing in the streets!). I think this is also true of Kerry--that he was unlawfully deprived of the presidency--but Kerry is more tainted by the acid rain of corruption that falls on one and all, in Washington DC, these days--whereas Gore has been away from it, and is more representative of the country we once were, in a symbolic way. He represents the prosperity and optimism of a previous era in a way that Kerry does not.

All of this argumentation (about Gore) is based on the premise that Hillary WILL be installed as Queen/Empress. I think there is a lot of evidence for this, but I won't argue it all here. Some say that she's "unelectable" because the rightwing christianists hate her, but, a) I don't think the rightwing christianists are all that big or powerful--they've just been a minority tool of the global corporate predators, and b) it's smart, it's clever, and I think it's the global corporate predators' plan, to head off revolt here by installing a "liberal"-seeming regime that does their bidding, and that has acquired (from Bush) draconian powers to smash any rebellion.

HOWEVER, I also don't want to contribute to the war profiteering corporate news monopolies' "talking point" (already pushed by CNN), that a Hillary's candidacy "is inevitable" and that Gore knows this, and will not run because he can't win. I think that's a misinterpretation of Gore (--if, as seems likely, he decides not to run). I think he is thinking ONLY about global warming. He is NOT driven by presidential ambition. He really and truly wants to save the planet. IN THAT CONTEXT, he sees that a run by him would alienate the "liberal" moneyed class which is contributing big to Hillary--in the assurance that she will protect their financial interests--and the corporate/military-industrial, prison-industrial complex interests that are counting on her to stifle a leftist (majorityist) revolt. I think that, if he thought he could do more for global warming by running for president, he would. It's not about her "made" status. It's about how effective can he be in saving the planet.

I hope he DOES run--in a bid to save both our democracy and our planet. I think he could win, despite the rigged voting machines. He is probably the only potential candidate who can be beat the machines. But I don't think he will risk the loss of influence with the coming Clinton queendom--and I think he may also fear politicalization of this vital issue. (This latter is a mistake--the Bushites and their oilcons have already politicized it.)

Prove me wrong, Al!!!

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For those in despair, just keep thinking of that 70% of the American people who oppose the Iraq War and want it ended--this staggering, epochal anti-war majority--up from a significant 56% who opposed the war from the beginning (Feb. '03). 56% would be a landslide in a presidential election (and believe me, it was). Now this 70% gets a choice between two candidates who support the war, after watching the 'Democratic' Congress they elected to end the war, re-fund it and escalate it instead. Your job, as a conscious, well-informed American, is to help re-enfranchise and re-empower that great, peace-minded, justice-minded, progressive American majority. It may be a long and difficult fight, but it is well worth every minute you spend on it, and future generations will bless our names for making the effort, even if we cannot restore democracy here in our lifetimes. Even if we lose, in the short term, we will have passed along the example of real patriotism, dissent, love of democracy and passionate commitment to it, and ideas such as transparent PUBLIC vote counting, the public good, equality, fairness, peacefulness, compassion, human rights, and government and corporate accountability, as our gift to future generations. Let us never forget. Pass it forward.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:13 PM
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1. As president, he could push his cause even harder!!!!
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This tune is getting tiresome.

I've never seen so much Kool-Aid swilling at DU before! What the hell is going on??
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:50 PM
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4. Juniperx, I'm just trying to prepare people for it, because I don't think he's going to
run. So, what is everybody going to do--and what are they going to feel like--if their "knight in shining armor" Al Gore chooses NOT to be their champion?

I think we are stuck with Queen Hillary, frankly. And we have to realize that the fight to restore our democracy is going to be long and hard, and is going to take a lot more grass roots organization, and a messy, difficult, multi-jurisdictional fight, over a long period of time, to restore transparent vote counting and other democratic processes. It's not going to be easy. There is no "magic bullet" or magic candidate. A Gore run, and especially a Gore win--which I think is possible--could HELP us restore democracy. But it cannot PRODUCE democracy. And if Gore doesn't run, what must we do? We must put our shoulders to the wheel, and CONTINUE the fight against the global corporate predators who have destroyed our democracy, and are destroying the planet.

I saw this demoralization process at work, after the '06 elections. Everybody was so hopeful! Then Pelosi and the new 'Democratic' Congress began to do everything imaginable to dampen any democratic (with a small d) enthusiasm ("impeachment is off the table"), to put us in our place, to kill the grass roots movement that put the gavel into Pelosi's hands, and to deny the American people any redress on the war, on massive looting of the federal treasury, on major crimes by the Bush Junta, and on the shredding of our Constitution and our civil rights.

Well, we're in for it again, I'm afraid--the rollercoaster of hope that this extremely corrupt political establishment is somehow going to restore democracy and do what's right. What I'm saying is that Gore is well aware of how corrupt it is, and has to gage his actions accordingly, on what he believes to be an issue of overriding importance: global warming. I'm NOT saying he shouldn't run. In fact, I hope he does. I'm NOT saying for sure that he won't--because I don't know. I'm just guessing at what will happen, and why. And I AGREE with you that he could do more for global warming as president, than not. But I don't think HE thinks that, given all the signs of a "made" Hillary Clinton candidacy (--"made" = chosen by powerful corporate players for ill purposes).

Be prepared for disappointment, is all I'm saying--just as we all should have been prepared for bitter disappointment in the Diebold II Congress.

Do we give up on our democracy, because of these ugly realities, that keep hitting us hard, over and over again? NO, WE DO NOT! We think, we analyze, we strategize and we get busy fixing our democratic institutions!
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Bill Bored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:56 PM
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5. Well, take the poll anyway!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:22 PM
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13. Well Said, "PP'.....well said....as sad as it makes me feel...
it's what many of us know is the truth of it. :-(
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:15 PM
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8. Your hatred of Gore gets tiresome.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:11 PM
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17. No hatred of Gore...but you didn't bother to read the whole thing...
is why you must be saying that.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 07:55 PM
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18. I'm amazed that you think that my analysis shows hatred of Gore.
I have a lot of admiration for Gore. I don't hate him. And I would love to see him run for and win the presidency. It is his right, in a way that no other person has except John Kerry, who also was cheated out of the presidency. And it is OUR right to have him as president. As I said, I think there would be dancing in the streets if Gore ran and won. All I'm saying is that I think he has decided not to run, for reasons of being a more effective leader on global warming, in an inevitable Hillary queendom. What, in my analysis, did you construe as hatred of Gore?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:20 PM
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12. That wasn't very nice.
Heres a novel idea, why don't you show that he is even remotely thinking of running. I wished Gore had run this time, but the timer has run out on him. I am to the point I'll bet my life savings that he doesn't run.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:15 PM
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2. He's the only "slam dunk" for president since Reagan in 84-I don't think Gore will run either--much
Edited on Fri Oct-12-07 02:19 PM by GreenTea
to Hillary and the republicans relief!
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:38 PM
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3. I can think of a scenario in which Gore would run. Both
Obama and Edwards decide that Hillary has locked them out, and they pick up the phone, call Gore, and jointly and publicly endorse him for President.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 02:58 PM
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6. as being needed for the nation at this time...
that'd be cool... if they could let themselves do it, that'd be awesome.


I am pretty certain (99%) Al's NOT going to run...


He's going to throw his support behind the Democratic nominee after the final debate, and just not talk politics very much, til then. I would HOPE he'd back John Edwards Feb. 1st, but that's not going to happen.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:14 PM
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7. Interesting idea, Rydz777! It could happen. There are other scenarios as well.
One is that Hillary 'wins' the primaries (--i.e., gets chosen by the Diebold/ES&S voting machines), and thus has a lock at least on the first round of voting at the Democratic Convention, but something goes wrong--a scandal, a big drop in the polls--and, either the Democratic convention delegates develop doubts, and a big fight ensues--which Gore might be brought in to settle, to restore unity--or, after getting the nomination, her campaign falters, with Gore coming in as an independent, to save the country from some worser fate (say, a Romney or Thompson 'win'). These scenarios are premised on the notion that Hillary is NOT the "made" candidate--that the rightwing/corporate predators are setting us up for a fall--choosing a candidate FOR us, whom they know they can defeat, because they have, a) total control of the newsstream, and b) direct, secret control of the vote counting.

I think this is a possibility--but I think the evidence is more weighted toward Hillary as the global corporate predators' choice. They can get a lot more done, with a "liberal" empress--toward consolidating their enormous gains under Bush--than they could with another outright fascist. They risk open revolt of the American people with more of this far rightwing garbage. They have NOT convinced the American people on ANY issue--except for convincing some peace-minded, justice-minded Americans that they are all alone--are part of a minority. Americans REMAIN as peace-minded and justice-minded, and progressive, as they have ever been--maybe more so. WE are the majority. So they have to worry about us and what we might do, if more Bushite bullshit is heaped upon us. Thus, a phony "liberal" is just what they need. And IF this is so--if this is what has been decided (and it sure looks that way to me)--and Gore knows this, and his sole motivation is solving global warming, then HE has to figure challenging Hillary is not a good idea. It will WEAKEN him as the nation's conscience on global warming--and, if he loses to Hillary, he will be completely on the outs.

I think your scenario is the most plausible, IF Gore wants a big political fight with the Clintons. But I think this is what is stopping him--he DOESN'T WANT such a fight. It would be bruising--and it would politicize and "taint" the global warming issue (his thinking, in my opinion). He thinks he needs to remain above the fray--unless something happens that would make him the unity candidate.

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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:35 PM
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14. Anything is possible
but I don't see Al Gore running for President either.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:19 PM
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9. 'How best to use this honor'
'If you want to go quickly, go alone.'
'If you want to go far, go together.'

Al Gore's words today.

Al could go far very quickly as President.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 03:59 PM
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10. Your analysis is as plausible as any I've heard....
I have also suspected exactly what you state; that Gore realizes that he has to work WITH the corrupt, corporatist-controlled government and globalized power structure rather than against it in order to further the cause of combating global warming. I believe that he feels, as I do, that this as well as other environmentally related issues are far and away the most important problems we are facing now and into the future and, therefore, compromises must be made to deal with and gain the cooperation of the powers-that-be. Gore entering the race would be viewed as a direct affront and significant challenge to the corporatists plans to install Hil or one of the GOP goons as president. As you say, this might serve to help reinstate some democratic processes, but would likely doom any cooperation with the global power structure on global warming, peace initiatives, etc.. Even if Gore were to run, win the nomination and ultimately win the presidency, his agenda would likely be severely undercut or completely sabotaged by those who truly hold the power in Washington and globally as payback.

I've been one of those for the past several months pushing for Gore to run. I have since realized that it's unlikely he will. Whatever he ultimately decides is okay by me and I will continue to support him and his initiatives 100%.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:17 PM
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11. Today Al Gore has put such a hurt on the two gangs/outlaws
that are running our country that there is no way out for them, word will spread about Al Gore's win, because there is no way for corporate media to crush this story.

My thought is Al Gore will run for president if public support for him over the next two three weeks becomes so overwhelming that he not only can beat the machines but that he can blow them out of the water.

Other than that I think you are spot on.



K&R

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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 04:46 PM
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15. I had to K&R.
The best, most clear-headed evaluation I've seen yet. (I may have missed others.)

I'm for Gore running, but he knows best how all this works, and I will trust and hope he's got the plan. He's brilliant and creative and free of "advisors" he's had in the past.

Thanks Peace Patriot.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-12-07 05:10 PM
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16. kick for an important read...whether you agree or not...
:kick:
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