Hillary just flipped again on her position on Iran

[bigdarryl]

First she said we have to talk to Iran and now this is what she's saying JESUS CHRIST !!! Hillary http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/hillaryclinton/story/0,,2191830,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront
Clinton would use violence against Tehran | Subscriptions index | Guardian Unlimited

[AlCzervik]

1. Darryl, is there a reason you never cut and paste from the articles you link to?

[saracat]

2. No wonder the English are giving money to Obama!

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

3. Some text:

Hillary Clinton today moved to secure her position as the most hawkish Democrat in the 2008 presidential race, saying she would consider the use of force to compel Iran to abandon its nuclear programme.

In an article for Foreign Affairs magazine intended as a blueprint for the foreign policy of a future Clinton White House, the Democratic frontrunner argues that Iran poses a long term strategic challenge to American and its allies, and that it must not be permitted to build or acquire nuclear weapons.


"If Iran does not comply with its own commitments and the will of the international community, all options must remain on the table," Ms Clinton said.
Elsewhere, Ms Clinton took the edge off her steely posture by saying she would abandon the Bush administration's policy of isolating its enemies, and would deploy diplomacy.

[Cha]

8. DLC! DLC! DLC!

SUCKS!

[flpoljunkie]

4. Whoa! Hillary's "preconditions" sound a lot like Bush's--purposely intended to be rejected!

"If Iran is in fact willing to end its nuclear weapons programme, renounce sponsorship of terrorism, support Middle East peace, and play a constructive role in stabilising Iraq, the United States should be prepared to offer Iran a carefully calibrated package of incentives," Ms Clinton wrote.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/hillaryclinton/story/0,,2191830,00.html?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

(I thought she said she wanted to end "cowboy diplomacy." Doesn't sound like it!

[sandnsea]

12. We are so going to regret this

This is almost worse than seeing the Bush train wreck coming.

[leftchick]

13. in addition they are AIPAC's

neocon AEI as well.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

5. It is informative to read more than the headline:

Elsewhere, Ms Clinton took the edge off her steely posture by saying she would abandon the Bush administration's policy of isolating its enemies, and would deploy diplomacy.

"True statesmanship requires that we engage with our adversaries, not for the sake of talking but because robust diplomacy is a prerequisite to achieving our aims."

She says she would even consider offering incentives to Iran in return for a pledge to disarm. However, she sets out a series of stringent conditions that are virtually identical to current White House policy.

"If Iran is in fact willing to end its nuclear weapons programme, renounce sponsorship of terrorism, support Middle East peace, and play a constructive role in stabilising Iraq, the United States should be prepared to offer Iran a carefully calibrated package of incentives," Ms Clinton wrote.

[bigdarryl]

6. bullshit

[AlCzervik]

7. since he posted text i think the judges will give to Kurt, suck it up Darryl or cut and paste.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

9. I stand corrected. It is informative to only read the headline.

You can say her position is murderous and contemptible, but it hasn't flipped. This is what she always says.

[Rydz777]

30. I agree completely. Besides, I get most of my information by

reading only the headlines - or sometimes only the first sentence in paragraphs. After all, the devil is in the details, and who wants to mess with the devil.

[Clintonista2]

11. Why read the whole article when he can just post a misleading headline?

You're giving too much credit to the OP.

[ruggerson]

15. But headlines from Drudge linked sites are so much more fun

n/t

[Deja Q]

10. Didn't somebody write a song about her?

I was a-Flipin' and a Flopin'
I was a rollin' and a strollin', yeah
I was a-moving and a groovin
I was reelin' with the feelin'
We were a rollin' and a strollin'
Moving and a groovin
Flip Flop



She was a-Flipin' and a-Flopin',
Reelin with the feelin, movin' and a-groovin',
Rockin' and a-rollin', yeah!



Bing bang, I saw the whole gang
Dancin' on my polling booth, yeah!
Flip flop, they was doin' the bop
All the voters had the dancin' bug

I was a-Flipin' and a Flopin'
I was a rollin' and a strollin', yeah
I was a-moving and a groovin
I was reelin' with the feelin'
We were a rollin' and a strollin'
Moving and a groovin
Flip Flop

I was a-Flipin' and a Flopin'...
I was a-Flipin' and a Flopin'...
(repeat ad nauseum)

:hide:

[LakeSamish706]

14. Not at all anxious to witness a Hillary Presidency... n/t

[illinoisprogressive]

16. what else is new. has she ever had a real position on anything!

[Catherine Vincent]

17. Obama sucks.

[AlCzervik]

18. O M G

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Colobo]

25. President Obama will make you proud.

Jan. 09.

Hill will be in the Senate, where she belongs.

[msongs]

19. ever...? anything....? I guess being number 2 is affecting logic nt

[cuke]

20. I thought "flip-flop" was a repuke phrase

[John Q. Citizen]

24. Naw, but "all options must remain on the table" does sound like neoconese.

[cuke]

26. You don't know that "flip-flop" was what repukes used against Kerry?

And you want to lecture me on "neoconese"?

Thanks for the cackle

[John Q. Citizen]

27. You call that a lecture? Where did you attend college? the OP said "Flipped"

as in "Hillary flipped," not flip flopped.

Where did you go to grade school?

Why can't Johnny read????

I give you an A for effort. But I don't think it's going to fly.

[ecstatic]

21. The issue is fairly new, so I'll give all of them some wiggle room to adjust

as more facts come in.

[John Q. Citizen]

22. She didn't flip. She said we have to talk to Iran and tell them we are going to bomb them!

Jeezz, what is it about Empire you don't get, bigdarryl?

/sarcasm

[jmp]

31. lol! Right on target. (nm)

...

[Colobo]

23. One step forward, one step backward, one step forward...

:)

[killbotfactory]

28. this should surprise nobody.

[calteacherguy]

29. Do you folks really think Hlllary Clinton wants war? Why would she want war?

She's a thinking human being, not a neocon.

[hedgehog]

32. I think she will back us into war step by step in an effort to prove

she's as tough as the guys.

[Evergreen Emerald]

33. Will the BS never cease? There was no flip

Look past the quick headline and the superficial reading. The fact that you will say anything really does your credibility a disservice. I stop listening to you due to the constant loud, angry, lies.

[niceypoo]

34. Your article says she would talk to Iran, your point?

She says all options would remain on the table but she would use, "robust diplomacy," to deal with Iran.

"If Iran does not comply with its own commitments and the will of the international community, all options must remain on the table," Ms Clinton said.

Elsewhere, Ms Clinton took the edge off her steely posture by saying she would abandon the Bush administration's policy of isolating its enemies, and would deploy diplomacy.

"True statesmanship requires that we engage with our adversaries, not for the sake of talking but because robust diplomacy is a prerequisite to achieving our aims."