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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:15 PM
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HILLARY TOPS OBAMA...AGAIN!


CLINTON TOPS OBAMA IN CASH ON HAND FOR NOMINATION FIGHT WITH ABOUT $35 MILLION TO HIS $32, REVERSING OBAMA’S SECOND-QUARTER ADVANTAGE

WASHINGTON — Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton ended September with more money in the bank than rival Barack Obama, holding $35 million cash on hand for the presidential primary contests to his $32 million.

Counting the Campaign Cash

It‘s that time again, the end of another quarter, and another moment of reckoning, as the presidenti...
Day of Reckoning on Campaign Cash

Both were far ahead of Rudy Giuliani, the money leader on the Republican side, underscoring the financial disparity between the parties. Giuliani reported $11.6 million in the bank for the GOP primary.

Clinton, who had trailed Obama in fundraising and in money in the bank at the end of June, edged past him with an aggressive third quarter of fundraising.

Neither Obama nor Clinton had yet filed detailed reports of their third-quarter finances with the Federal Election Commission. The reports were due at 11:59 p.m. EDT Monday.

Clinton, who also has been raising money for the general election, had a total of $50 million in the bank, her campaign said Monday night. But $15 million of that cannot be used for the primaries.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1671946,00.html


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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:18 PM
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1. Thanks Hillary, for spending my money wisely!
I appreciate the thought behind the spending producing the BEST results!
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:20 PM
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5. Too bad, what a waste.
Gore will smoke her in the end.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:30 PM
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18. Consensus says, if Gore enters the race...Obama and Edwards are irrelevant..
It will be a 2 horse race Gore and hillary, if he enters..

Bama back to Congress, if he still has a seat or a constituency left after all his missed votes.

Edwards back to his compound to meditate on how to raise $100M before he runs again.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:37 PM
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22. I would vote for Sen. Clinton.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:59 PM
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32. I'm with you..Hillary is the best and brightest of the field..
she's demonstrates her ability daily by running the smartest and best campaign EVA!
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:10 PM
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44. no doubt she's a great campaigner.
And she's brilliant.

And the truth is, in some very critical ways I like her a lot.

But she will not win the nomination.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:15 PM
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49. She's in it to WIN..
and she will WIN North Carolina.. :hi:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:09 PM
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42. "Some people say"....
Obama would be "irrelevant" with $90 million and millions of contributors?

:rofl:


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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:13 PM
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48. yep. pathetic how some people don't know their ass from a hole in the ground.
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 10:13 PM by Labors of Hercules
Time will tell! :bounce:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:18 PM
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2. NICE! The Obama fad is almost over
Thank goodness.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:20 PM
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3. It ain't over ... until the votes are cast and counted.
Party down but take care to not permit that over confidence morph into unbridled arrogance. :evilgrin:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:22 PM
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7. That's not over confidence or arrogance.
It's to keep up with all the anti-Clinton crap that's posted.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:25 PM
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14. And you wear it so well.
:eyes: Overconfident Bravado, or is it Bravada? :shrug:

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:27 PM
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16. Since you left the other thread with your tail between your legs.
I'm surprised your still here. :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:38 PM
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24. Deleted sub-thread
Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:20 PM
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4. I was still waiting for it to start.
:shrug:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:54 PM
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30. True, he can barely break 20% support
The only reason he has this much attention, is because he screams for it. It's empty attention, though.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:00 PM
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33. Like some of his his supporters?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:01 PM
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34. Exactly. nt.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:22 PM
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9. $32 million is a fad?
You do nothing to help your candidate by making such ridiculous remarks.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:53 PM
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29. Hillary doesn't need my help, she continues to soar
A few hurt feelings on DU doesn't mean much to me.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:25 PM
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12. Just for shits and giggles, what is so bad about Obama in Lirwin's world?
Is it the newly mobilized voters? The big crowds? The ability to reach people across party lines? The large base of donors that your girl will be begging to tap into if she gets the nomination?
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:32 PM
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19. His supporters
His arrogant way of appearing above the fray as his supporters smear those they disagree with and destroy lives. Reminds me of someone sitting in the WH right now.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:33 PM
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I got it...Obama is bad because his supporters are destroying lives
Thanks.

:freak:
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:38 PM
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23. Obama tries to appear above the fray, above "petty politics" as he directs kamikazee supporters. nt.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:11 AM
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64. Whose life has been destroyed by Obama supporters?
Please tell me you're not regurgitating the crap from Hillaryis44 blaming Obama for Norman Hsu's troubles.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:45 AM
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53. And you're blind to your fellow groupies acting the same way.
If enough people thought like you do Hillary supporters would be killing her.Thankfully, most people are smart enough to not let someone's supporters dictate who they like.Some people...apparently not enough.

Thanks for the look into your shallowness, and the blindness to your own actions and those that you agree with.That reminds me a lot of someone sitting in the White House too.
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gorekerrydreamticket Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:44 AM
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56. I haven't heard about the destroying of lives by Obama supporters...please elaborate, Lirwin2
n/m
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:55 AM
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59. Your crowd is hardly in a position to complain about arrogance.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:25 PM
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13. Obama's entire campaign has been a thoughtless meandering of malapropisms..
At first his supporters thought the fund raising equaled support.

That was put to rest when Hillary out-raised him last quarter.

Obama's numbers have been stagnant since July. Maybe they figured out $$$ doesn't equate support!
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:10 AM
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63. That is why she lied about the money she has on hand.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:11 AM by Ethelk2044
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:20 PM
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6. Way to go, Rupert!

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:22 PM
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8. Shit, I think she looks like him actually! n/t
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:24 PM
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11. You're mighty proud of that photo aren't ya?
She also met with Rush Limbaugh too.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:27 PM
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15. All Hillary supporters should be proud of that photo
That's the guy who her husband made even richer and who will be helping to fund her run to the White House.

This is what all the chest-thumping is really about, isn't it? Helping Rupert Murdoch put his pet Democrat in the White House.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:39 PM
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25. I don't mind his money.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #25
27. My dad use to tell me all money is green.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:47 AM
Response to Reply #27
54. And all blood is red, which you'll notice when you look at your hands after handling Murdoch's money
;)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:04 PM
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37. What 'till you see his policies -- you'll LOVE them.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:33 PM
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20. Yay Rupert! That 2300$ donation gave Hillary the boost she needed!
:eyes:
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:35 PM
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21. Well, I'm sure she'll return the favor in spades

Don't look for any media diversification from a Hillary Administration.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:51 PM
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28. We'll see
When she's president. Too bad your failed smear attempts aren't affecting the polls, eh? Sucks for you.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:03 PM
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35. Actually, it probably sucks more for you

If Hillary does manage to buy and lie her way into the White House, I'll probably do quite well -- just as I've done under the past 6.5 years of Bush. I sincerely hope you don't have any kids who need health insurance or a job that can be outsourced.

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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:08 PM
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39. Sorry, your fear tactics & attacks fail
Have a great day :hi:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:23 PM
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10. SLOW DOWN, horsie!!! It's still a few months till the primaries.
Back in 2004 us Deaniacs were assuming the same thing and got burned.

Then again this kind of BS is expected of the Hillary-is-44 propaganda site.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #10
17. A Obama supporter talking about propaganda?
:rofl:

Thanks I needed a good laugh today!
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:35 PM
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51. Is that the best you got? pitiful, pitiful... n/t/
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:40 PM
Response to Reply #10
26. Now that's funny coming from an Obama supporter.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 09:58 PM
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31. "As the day ends,
the latest third quarter fundraising reports are finally coming in. Hillary Clinton knows how to spend money wisely. Barack Obama knows how to waste money. On to the final quarter of the year!"-- here i thought you`d use this from "hillary is 44."

i must admit it`s all about the money ,the more money one has the more votes one gets.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:04 PM
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36. "... the more money one has the more votes one gets."
Well, up to a point.

It may be hard to believe but you can't buy all us "little people's" votes with celebrity and politico endorsements. :shrug:
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:10 PM
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43. one word -> sarcasm
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:12 PM
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47. Darn! At this time of night, please kindly use the tag for us who are not
as quick on the uptake as we should be? :shrug:
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:08 PM
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38. Obama has lots of offices in 26 states with plenty of grassroots involvement
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 10:10 PM by zulchzulu
When you figure the sheer overwhelming amount of people that support Obama and are working in 26 states so far and setting up a great ground game, it is going to cost money.

I heard a great story about grassroots support in Iowa. Obama supporters outnumbered all the other candidates' supporters sometimes by 3 to 1.

Let Clinton save her money. Who cares...

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:09 PM
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41. Ok I am going to be nice here, check out your headline.
Edited on Mon Oct-15-07 10:10 PM by William769
Change lost to lots.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #41
46. LOL!!! THAT is the competition? No wonder Hillary leads!
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:13 AM
Response to Reply #46
65. Hillary does not lead
January we will see who has the last laugh.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #65
70. Have you heard if Obama is bowing out yet?
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incapsulated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:09 PM
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40. ......
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:14 AM
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66. I've been waiting for a chance to use this:
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:11 PM
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45. Kick and recommend. Good to read some good news! n/t
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 10:15 PM
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50. Not that good news for Hillary is lacking, though ;)
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-15-07 11:18 PM
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52. I don't have a horse in this race, yet, BUT..it's unseemly for the Clintonistas (and I say that...
with admiration for the way they defend Hillary) to rub in her continued good news time and again. To put it in all caps, with an exclamation point no less...well, you don't need to wonder at the hostility going toward her campaign. It's not JUST because she's ahead in the polls.

A little humility goes a long way. She's winning, guys. Take it with class.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 06:48 AM
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55. You're expecting way too much from them.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:52 AM
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57. Yay! Coke over Pepsi! Brand recognition wins again!!
How EXCITING is this race?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 08:55 AM
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58. Because they engage in shady accounting and don't count debt.
But, congratulations to Hillary. I'm sure she raised most of her money legally.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #58
60. Link? Proof?
Thanks in advance.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:03 AM
Response to Reply #60
61. That she raised most of her money honestly and legally?
I'm giving her the benefit of the doubt on that one.

As far as this entire post being pure bullcrap, see this:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1007/6365.html
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:09 AM
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62. She needs to answer why they did what they did because the statement they released was False.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:12 AM by Ethelk2044
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:27 AM
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67. Cutting through all the BS in your politico link..heres what it says:
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:28 AM by Tellurian
It says you either are unable to read correctly or are mathematically challenged!

Sen Clinton's original accounting was completely CORRECT!

"In the end, Clinton reported raising $28 million between July 1 and Sept. 30 and having $50 million in cash-on-hand.

Of that, about $34 million can be spent on the primary, while $16 million is for the general election. Clinton also reported carrying $2 million in debts, driving her ready cash figure down to around $32 million.

Obama’s report, the last to go public, showed him raising $21 million during the third quarter and ending it with $36 million in cash.

But he, too, has some debt and has raised money that must be held for the general election, which drives his primary cash total to about $32 million.

Why Lie about Sen Clintons successful fundraising prowess, She came in FIRST. Obama came in second. That fact remains unchanged no matter how you kick and scream.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:28 AM
Response to Reply #67
68. COH is equal, and your thread/post is false.
So either the campaign are liars or . . .
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:38 AM
Response to Reply #68
71. Obama's expense totals are false...
and will be questioned soon..
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:43 AM
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72. Suurrrre they will. n/t
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:31 AM
Response to Reply #58
69. Hillary kicked Obama ass royally this quarter..
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:31 AM by Tellurian
From the politico link you provided:

It says you either are unable to read correctly or are mathematically challenged!

Sen Clinton's original accounting was completely CORRECT!

"In the end, Clinton reported raising $28 million between July 1 and Sept. 30 and having $50 million in cash-on-hand.

Of that, about $34 million can be spent on the primary, while $16 million is for the general election. Clinton also reported carrying $2 million in debts, driving her ready cash figure down to around $32 million.

Obama’s report, the last to go public, showed him raising $21 million during the third quarter and ending it with $36 million in cash.

But he, too, has some debt and has raised money that must be held for the general election, which drives his primary cash total to about $32 million.

Why Lie about Sen Clintons successful fundraising prowess, She came in FIRST. Obama came in second. That fact remains unchanged no matter how you kick and scream.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:50 AM
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73. Your post is still dishonest.
They are virtually tied in cash that they can spend on the primary.

Clinton does not have a $3M advantage in that area.

But, continue your gloating over Enron-style accounting.
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:55 AM
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74. "either are unable to read correctly or are mathematically challenged" THERES A 3RD OPTION!
They know what they are saying isn't truthful, but say it anyways to gain some political points.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:04 PM
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75. You mean like falsely claiming that Clinton
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 12:05 PM by geek tragedy
has a $3M advantage in primary cash available?

I mean, unless you all really think it's gloat-worthy to have more debt.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:28 AM
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76. Whats this? More expenses than reported? who knew?
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:55 AM
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77. ill gotten lobbiest money, I just gave my first $100 to Obama... nt
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Silence Dogood Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 08:04 AM
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78. Obama is hiring lobbiests-
I wonder why?
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ihelpu2see Donating Member (935 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 06:54 PM
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79. but not taking money from them, big difference
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