Clinton on "The View": It's hard running for prez as a woman

[DeepModem Mom]

CNN: October 15, 2007
Clinton: It's hard running for prez as a woman

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Democratic White House hopeful Hillary Clinton told ABC's “The View” Monday that it's different running for president as a woman, noting people focus more attention on her appearances and mannerisms than on those of her male counterparts. "Oh, yes, yes. Oh, yes," Clinton said when asked about the difficulties she encounters as a woman candidate. "The hair. The hair. The clothes. The laugh," the New York Democrat added, referencing the scrutiny she has faced on her evolving hairstyles, clothes, and most recently on what some have dubbed her 'cackle.'

"I do think that there still is, you know, probably a tougher standard for women, especially running for president," she added. "I mean, we've all been through it in some way or another. Where you go and you try to break a barrier, you try to do the best you can, and people are saying, ‘Well, I don't like her clothes,’ or, ‘I don't like her hair,’ or whatever."

During her appearance on The View, Clinton also brushed aside the suggestion that leaders from countries unsympathetic to women's rights would refuse to meet with her if she was elected president. "You know, I have been to 82 countries," the Democratic frontrunner said. "And I have met with the leaders of a lot of countries that are not exactly in the forefront of giving women their rights. And I've never found that to be a problem." “I actually think, assuming I'm so fortunate as to be elected, that sends a very strong message to those countries and to those leaders,” she added.

Clinton's appearance on the daytime talk show kicked off a week in which she is aiming to play up her connection to female voters. Appearing at a women's luncheon honoring Eleanor Roosevelt later on Monday, Clinton said she often draws inspiration from the former first lady....

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[pnwmom]

1. How many heads of countries refused to meet with Margaret Thatcher?

Or Indira Ghandi? Or the women leaders of Germany and Ireland?

That has to be one of the lamest arguments against a HRC Presidency.

[Clintonista2]

2. Exactly what I was thinking, that is one of the more ridiculous arguments against her

[Captain_Nemo]

3. She sounds like she did a great job. Talking about the double standard is good because

women think about it and talk about it all the time. There are men in upper upper management who are grey, bald and don't care too much about their looks. Whereas you have a tough time finding women in upper upper management like that. Its hard for women to get that far without also focusing on how they look as they compete with men.

[journalist3072]

4. She's absolutely right. John Edwards' criticism of her clothes at one of the debates

Is proof of how shallow some people can be.

[pnwmom]

5. Maybe he's jealous that the guys can't wear pink suits

or they think they can't.

[BeyondGeography]

9. Calling his harmless joke "criticism of her clothes"

is proof of how misleading some people can be.

[journalist3072]

50. The fact is that he did criticize what she had on...that is not in dispute.

No male candidate on stage that night, said anything about the clothes other male candidates had on.

The fact that Edwards talked about her clothing, speaks volumes IMO.

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12. Well

He was right about that suit, lol.

[Honeycombe8]

6. She has a point. nt

[DURHAM D]

7. Hillary did well on The View.

She talked with the women on the panel, in the audience, and at home.

She didn't talk "at" them she talked "with" them.

She wasn't preachy - she wasn't desperate to drive a point home. She was in her element and completely charming.

I, for one, would rather see her on the female version of Meet the Press with Tina Russert or This Week with Georgette or Wilma Blitzer but oops and too bad - women don't have those options for our viewing pleasure. I am really pissed about this. Therefore, it was off to the hen party on The View.

It is 2007 for God's sake. Women are 51% of the population and 55% of the voting population. Why can't we have more gender balance on news programs? Men still trying to tell us what to think about and how we think. This fucking sucks.

Maybe if Hillary can break the glass ceiling of the White House someone can break some heads of the talking heads.

[DeepModem Mom]

11. Great points! Where are the Tinas, Georgettes and Wilmas, and their shows? nt

[DURHAM D]

16. Every Sunday my blood pressure goes up.

The men ask the wrong questions of politicians and candidates.

I get so tired of the "whip out our dicks" crew.

[fedupfisherman]

8. Other women have run for the presidency before

What makes Hilary more special?

[ShortnFiery]

10. True, and those women can not claim to have on their resume, "I was married to the boss."

HRC's not breaking a glass ceiling but using her husband's cronies for a shot at "the big prize." However, the M$M and her supporters will MAKE her "America's iron lady" and shove these images down our throats. :(

Ask any Labor Party Brit what he/she thinks of their oh so special, war horse, iron lady, one each, Maggie Thatcher?

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15. Except

Thatcher was a Tory.

:eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

19. I know, I'm talking about the opposition party, but OK, ask most non-warmongering Brits?

After all, this notion of Political Royalty in America transcends party.

I don't mind telling you that it creeps the hell out of me to even consider the thought of any more "Bushes or Clintons" exercising the increased powers of The Unitary Executive. :scared: :thumbsdown:

[incapsulated]

22. Really?

Oddly enough, life wasn't hell on earth for most people under Clinton.

[ShortnFiery]

25. I guess that you were not on welfare OR worked in the manufacturing industry?

:eyes: But hell, all that truly matters is that our illustrious political royals SERVE those within "the investor classes." After all, we'll keep cable prices somewhat under control to sate their need for "bread and circuses."

No, life was not good for a number of people under Clinton. It's further not any "great genius" on his part, but mostly luck that we enjoyed the dot coms and a healthy stock market.

[incapsulated]

30. I don't know your age

But the manufacturing industry was destroyed by Ronald Regan.

BTW, people of my hue happened to do better under Clinton than they had in decades but I guess they don't count.

I never said Clinton was perfect. Since we never had a perfect president I always wonder who he is being compared so unfavorably to. The Shrub? Pappa Bush? Reagan? Nixon?

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45. Half the democrats now would have been

And half the republicans now would have been considered dangerous extremists.

Which would you prefer?

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49. I'm not talking about you or me

I'm talking about elected officials.

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13. She may get the nomination?

Rack your brain?

[fedupfisherman]

14. The same could be said about any woman running for prez.

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17. Can you name one...

That ever had a large lead in the primaries over everyone else?

[fedupfisherman]

18. No but................

if you run for president you do have a 'chance' to win

[ShortnFiery]

20. Oh no, no woman existed or ran before, her highness, HRC.

All past women are inconsequential to our future Queen. :crazy:

[incapsulated]

21. You asked what made her "so special"

What makes her so special is she will likely be the first female nominee for president in US history.

[ShortnFiery]

23. Don't count on it ... should of, would of, could of are not FACTS. n/t

[incapsulated]

24. 20 to 40 point leads in the polls are facts

I'm afraid.

It's not a done deal but no woman has ever been in this position in either party before.

[fedupfisherman]

26. So what?

Vote for her just because she is a woman and has a womanizing husband?

[BootinUp]

28. Why do you think she is so far ahead

right now? Could any of be due to her skills and capabilities as politician and leader?

[ShortnFiery]

32. You can't have it both ways. She can't claim experience "married to the boss" and

also add it to her resume as "a leader."

HRC wouldn't be on our political radar screen if it weren't for her husband. Yeah, that's Clintonian DLC's definition of "feminism" (nepotism with a dash of corporate cronies).

[Lucinda]

48. I know you've been exposed to her resume

which is why I find it very bizarre that you are still pushing this "married to the boss" stuff.
Why do you assume Hillary would have accomplished nothing in the public eye if she had not been married to a successful politian?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton">From WIKI - PRIOR to dating Bill:
"Rodham then entered Yale Law School, where she served on the Board of Editors of the Yale Review of Law and Social Action.<27> During her second year, she worked at the Yale Child Study Center,<28> learning about new research on early childhood brain development and working as a research assistant on the seminal work, Beyond the Best Interests of the Child (1973).<29><30> She also took on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital,<29> and volunteered at New Haven Legal Services to provide free advice for the poor.<28> In the summer of 1970, she was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching migrant workers' problems in housing, sanitation, health and education;<31><32> Edelman would become a significant mentor to her.<32>"

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33. I don't know, maybe she is...

Making up a list of people to kill and hide the bodies.

You know, the way she does.

[ShortnFiery]

38. Don't joke. We, the people must keep on our Congress critters to scale down the

power of The Unitary Executive. Such overwhelming power would be easily abused even by our laudable party members, i.e., they are only human and power is very tempting and hard to let go of. We must insist that Congress restore the "balance of power" shared between our three branches of government.

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39. And we have to stop Hillary

From killing her husband's girlfriends and shit because that is just unseemly.

Why? Why do you do this, Hillary?

[ShortnFiery]

41. Oh stop, the overwhelming powers of The Unitary Executive that Junior has snagged are

seriously disconcerting and need to be scaled back A.S.A.P.

[incapsulated]

35. Yes

That is why people are favoring Hillary.

In your mind.

[ShortnFiery]

27. Yes, and our farts smell like roses.

Again, don't count on something before it materializes - if anything, it emanates bad karma. ;)

[incapsulated]

31. I'm sure you will feel much better when the voting starts

lol.

[ShortnFiery]

34. At least that would prove REAL vice pansy a** conjecture.

:shrug:

[incapsulated]

37. Yeah, I'm going way out on a limb

Thinking Hillary is in a historic position as a female candidate for President and may well win the nomination given her huge leads in the polls.

Man, I need to lay off the bong.

[ShortnFiery]

40. I wish that you could "step away" from the giddy elation to truly see how your attitude comes off

to other people. :(

You know, the people who you will want to vote for HRC should she get the Nomination? Or do you think you'll use the old "tried and true" DLC strategy of intimidation and bandwagon campaigning in order to get "the masses" to vote for your heroine?

[incapsulated]

42. I wish you would stop

Saying crazy shit like Hillary is going to disappear Bill's girlfriends and is the second coming of Maggie Thatcher and Clintons = Bushes.

Cause I don't take you seriously, period.

[ShortnFiery]

44. You're stuck on one note. But yes, sexual misconduct and blackmail are REAL concerns.

But you just want to push the hyperbole so you don't have to discuss any real issues, right?

HRC is not a trend sitting woman but just another power hungry politco who will fall, and fall hard. If she won't self-implode, I have confidence that her lovely supporters will help usher in "the fall from grace."

[Colobo]

36. I bet it was harder for Carol Moseley Braun. A black woman with

little money for her campaign and lack of recognition as a serious candidate.

That, Sen. Clinton, is hard indeed.

[calteacherguy]

47. That's an exellent point, it will send a strong message to the rest of the world.

One more reason to vote for Clinton!