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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:18 AM
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Hillary pulls to 37 point lead in California...
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 09:18 AM by SaveElmer
SurveyUSA...

Hillary 57%
Obama 20%
Edwards 13%

http://cbs5.com/politics/local_file_288225535
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:19 AM
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1. As a Californian I implore you all to think before following our lead
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 09:19 AM by slackmaster
We've taken you down the wrong path before.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:20 AM
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2. Sounds to me like California has excellent judgment...nt
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:21 AM
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3. lol!
I doubt SaveElmer expected that as the 1st reply.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:22 AM
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5. No...usually I expect the "poll is rigged" reply...nt
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:23 PM
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37. OK. The poll IS rigged
I never understand why our internal polling is so different from your polling. Survey America is of course someone Mark Penn is intimately familiar with.

Now, granted Clinton leads among registered Democrats who cite themselves as "active" in the party. But not by 37 points. Its always a matter of phrasing and questioning type. Do you have a copy of that survey? Just curious.

I'm not saying Hillary isn't leading; but these ridiculous margins are almost propagandalike in their revelation. It might be that I just avoid the Hillary people in my state. But how could that be since I'm active in the party and hear from them every day? It's a mystery to me.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:22 AM
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6. ...
:rofl:

Yes, you do have "The Grope-an-ator" as your Governor. ;)
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:33 AM
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10. Don't forget that two infamous 20th Century Presidents both came from here




There have been others who never made President as well, e.g. Pete Wilson, S.I. Hiyakawa, George Murphy. The list is long and sordid.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:43 AM
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11. Don't forget that an infamous 20th Century President (Gulf of Tonkin?) came from here
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 09:44 AM by ShortnFiery


Remember the following chant from the 1960s? "Hey! Hey! LBJ! How many kids did you KILL today?!?

We are NOT without sin. :shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:47 AM
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13. Our Demagogues can beat up your Demagogues
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:52 AM
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15. Yeah (sniff sniff) they'll all *be back*
:rofl:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:54 AM
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20. Your ignorance is showing again.
He's from Texas.

I see you will take any chance you get though to bash a Democrat. I guess civil rights doesn't mean squat to you?
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:29 PM
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26. LBJ's from California?
Who knew?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:50 PM
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29. Well we know who didn't know!
:rofl:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:23 PM
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25. and Boxer as one of our Senators ....
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:24 AM
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7. As a Californian, are you taking us down the wrong path by imploring us not to follow CA's lead?
:shrug:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:30 AM
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8. That is quite possible Freddie, I really don't know. I am a Californian.
Consider it all a joke at your own risk.
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Carrieyazel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:14 PM
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30. Thank goodness the Golden State doesn't vote until February 5.
This lack of imagination and going totally on name ID, really burns me up. I thought Californians liked to think outside the box. Guess not.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:22 AM
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4. Her numbers have been stunning
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:32 AM
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9. Without Gore, It's President Clinton Part Deux
Actually Part 3 if you're measuring in terms.

Let's just get it over with and Annoint her as our next Queen.

Sorry, but I do not like her, and will Not be voting for her in the CA primary or the General Election. I really don't give a shit what happens to this Fucked Up Country formerly known as America.

We deserve what we get, even if it's another repub. Or in Hillary's case, a slightly better alternative.
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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:44 AM
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12. I really don't give a shit what happens to this Fucked Up Country formerly known as America.
Spoken like a true Hillary hater, way to go!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:01 AM
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17. It's called a temper tantrum...nt
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:16 AM
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18. I Think It's More Of The Same
Different stripes, but similar outlook.

I'm 41. In my teen & adult years, I've had the following:

B Sr. - 8 YEARS VP

B Sr. - 4 YEARS P

MR C - 8 YEARS P

B Jr. - 8 YEARS P

And now??
MRS C - 4/8 YEARS P ???

Forgive me for wanting to puke at the prospect of seeing a B or C in the WH for 36 of my 50 Years in this country?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:38 PM
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27. I'm so sorry that you had to suffer under those eight years of Clinton.
:eyes:
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:10 PM
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36. out of all the democrats I know in OC only
2 support HRC. Where is this suppoort the corporate media cabal keeps telling us about?

Hey, OCDem, are you going to the Truman Dinner Friday night? Looking forward to hearing Edwards again. Have you signed the Gore Nominating Pages yet?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:50 AM
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14. Looks like no need for Clinton to worry about California
I love overconfident adversaries.

:rofl:


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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:01 AM
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16. And I love an adversary...
That buries their head in the sand...

:rofl:

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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:09 AM
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19. Hehehe!
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:10 AM by zulchzulu
We'll see what happens in the first four states vote...

90 days until the first votes start...

That is:
* 7,776,000 seconds
* 129,600 minutes
* 2160 hours
* 12 weeks (rounded down)

Once Clinton loses Iowa (she'll place a distant third), the whole "inevitability" story will make her candidacy implode. Watch and learn.


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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:59 AM
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22. Your predictions have been lacking among other things.
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 12:00 PM by William769
:rofl:
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Semper_FiFi Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:57 AM
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21. Kick and recommend. Hurrah for Californians.
They know a good thing when they see it.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:59 AM
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23. I'll second that.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:21 PM
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24. That is an insurmountable lead imo. n/t
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:43 PM
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28. The Californians are not stupid...despite electing Arnold...they are not stupid
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:34 PM
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32. The vote for Ahnold explains the Hillary support quite handily n/t
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bagrman Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:56 PM
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34. We need to get away from the corporate owned candidates.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:30 PM
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31. Smart state.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:51 PM
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33. Hmmm...
those numbers certainly aren't reflected in my interactions with people. :shrug:
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 03:01 PM
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35. Here's a really bigger number...
Undecided: 6%

A mere 6% are still undecided. If I'm not mistaken, that is way less than '04's number.
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