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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:33 PM
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I can't support Hillary in the primaries because she doesn't understand torture.
Bill started the renditions and handed the system over to George. Hillary has been too vague in her answers about torture; condemning it one day and fiddling with the definitions or making allowances for special circumstances the next. I wrote letters for Amnesty International all through the Reagen era. He sent American money to help finance the people who tortured thousands in Central and South America. If you're willing to torture people to get information, how much easier to lie to the American people about that information!
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:35 PM
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1. "If you're willing to torture people to get information, how much easier to lie to the American...
people about that information!"

^ this!
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:37 PM
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2. Hillary does understand torture....
She can hear the sound of her own voice, can't she?

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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:44 PM
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4. How old are you? Are you not able to discuss this issue in an adult way, without attacking her
personally?
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:46 PM
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16. Grow up.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:39 PM
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3. I honestly believe that if people watched a clip of waterboarding, they would
reconsider their views. This goes for the President on down -- all the Dems and Repugs, and every citizen in the U.S. who thinks it's okay.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:53 PM
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5. I understood that Bill was about to say no when Gore pushed him to say OK to the renditions -
I wonder if Gore regrets that use of his influence.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 09:58 PM
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6. It's really sad when people have to lie to try to make a political point. What happened to letting
the facts speak for themselves?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:04 PM
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8. They really don't care about their country.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:05 PM
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9. Hillary is going to be 60. She should have formed an opinion on this long ago.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:00 PM
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7. It All Depends On What The Definition Of "Is" Is
Sigh.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:06 PM
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10. She understands and denounces. You are the one drowning in ignorance
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:14 PM
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11. Unfortunately her triangulating on the subject leaves people to wonder her real feelings
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 11:04 PM
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15. Your words have no meaning
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:22 PM
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12. Hillary Clinton Against Torture-------get your facts straight please-view this:


Forum Name Political Videos
Topic subject Hillary Clinton Against Torture
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x63781#63781
63781, Hillary Clinton Against Torture
Posted by journalist3072 on Fri Oct-19-07 10:06 PM

For those DUers who disengenuously state that Hillary Clinton doesn't "understand torture."

I thought you might want to let the facts guide you here.....so here you go.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:25 PM
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13. Thanks for adding some facts to the "debate."
:thumbsup:
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-19-07 10:28 PM
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14. Uh-oh!
Now, you're getting the Hillbots angry.

Duck and cover!
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