Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Hillary's new TV ad running in NH and Iowa

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:08 AM
Original message
Hillary's new TV ad running in NH and Iowa
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 12:09 AM by Herman Munster
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:32 AM
Response to Original message
1. Meaningless weasel words. Coulda been a Nixon ad from '68.
And it's time to stop talking about "the middle class" while leaving the working class and the poor out in the cold.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:34 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. Do you remember Nixon ads from 1968?
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 12:35 AM by Eric J in MN
Did he say that too many Americans are one paycheck away from falling into a desperation?

(I'm not familiar with Nixon ads.)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 12:54 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. They often talked vaguely about economic insecurity, used the rhetoric of
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 01:10 AM by Ken Burch
"defending the middle class against the elitists and special interests"(and unfortunately, DLC Dems seem to agree with the Nixon/Agnew notion that middle-class people have nothing in common with workers and the poor and should see them as the enemy, as they should also more or less see people of color as their natural inferiors) and made vague promises of things being better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 04:43 AM
Response to Reply #3
5. A majority of Americans self identify
as middle class and certainly most working class people do too.I expect all politicians will make appeals to them. There are no Democratic candidates who see the poor as the enemy and people of color as inferior and I've yet to meet a fellow democrat who feels that way either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 03:00 AM
Response to Original message
4. I like how the comments have to be "approved" before being posted
Funny how all the comments are "pro-Hillary"... nothing about Clinton family love for NAFTA, China MFN, outsourcing... issues the middle class certainly took on the chin for...

I thought the ad was weak.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
6. Hardly inspiring or even definitive of Sen. Clinton...
Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:48 AM by youthere
Every dem candidate is saying the same thing...sorry but that ad is a yawner. She has been running a brilliant campaign (even if I don't like her) and I'm a little surprised by this wishy washy ad. It doesn't really set her apart from the other candidates, and it isn't even a memorable "soundbite". She can (and has done) so much better.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 07:38 PM
Response to Reply #6
7. It's the kind of ad you make when you think you've got the whole thing sewed up
And you just don't want to screw up.

I think her advisors think she needs to have as few strong convictions as possible in order to win. She follows the lead of Mark Penn, who wants her to run and govern as a Republican(which is what "moving to the center" means, after all).

She hasn't gotten it that this approach made the last TWO Democratic administrations failures on political terms.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 12:01 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC