Herman Munster
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Sat Oct-20-07 12:08 AM
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Hillary's new TV ad running in NH and Iowa |
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Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 12:09 AM by Herman Munster
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Ken Burch
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Sat Oct-20-07 12:32 AM
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1. Meaningless weasel words. Coulda been a Nixon ad from '68. |
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And it's time to stop talking about "the middle class" while leaving the working class and the poor out in the cold.
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Eric J in MN
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Sat Oct-20-07 12:34 AM
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2. Do you remember Nixon ads from 1968? |
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Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 12:35 AM by Eric J in MN
Did he say that too many Americans are one paycheck away from falling into a desperation?
(I'm not familiar with Nixon ads.)
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Ken Burch
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Sat Oct-20-07 12:54 AM
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3. They often talked vaguely about economic insecurity, used the rhetoric of |
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Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 01:10 AM by Ken Burch
"defending the middle class against the elitists and special interests"(and unfortunately, DLC Dems seem to agree with the Nixon/Agnew notion that middle-class people have nothing in common with workers and the poor and should see them as the enemy, as they should also more or less see people of color as their natural inferiors) and made vague promises of things being better.
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Sat Oct-20-07 04:43 AM
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5. A majority of Americans self identify |
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as middle class and certainly most working class people do too.I expect all politicians will make appeals to them. There are no Democratic candidates who see the poor as the enemy and people of color as inferior and I've yet to meet a fellow democrat who feels that way either.
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Sat Oct-20-07 03:00 AM
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4. I like how the comments have to be "approved" before being posted |
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Funny how all the comments are "pro-Hillary"... nothing about Clinton family love for NAFTA, China MFN, outsourcing... issues the middle class certainly took on the chin for...
I thought the ad was weak.
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Sat Oct-20-07 07:47 AM
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6. Hardly inspiring or even definitive of Sen. Clinton... |
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Edited on Sat Oct-20-07 07:48 AM by youthere
Every dem candidate is saying the same thing...sorry but that ad is a yawner. She has been running a brilliant campaign (even if I don't like her) and I'm a little surprised by this wishy washy ad. It doesn't really set her apart from the other candidates, and it isn't even a memorable "soundbite". She can (and has done) so much better.
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Ken Burch
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Sat Oct-20-07 07:38 PM
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7. It's the kind of ad you make when you think you've got the whole thing sewed up |
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And you just don't want to screw up.
I think her advisors think she needs to have as few strong convictions as possible in order to win. She follows the lead of Mark Penn, who wants her to run and govern as a Republican(which is what "moving to the center" means, after all).
She hasn't gotten it that this approach made the last TWO Democratic administrations failures on political terms.
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