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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:40 AM
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Tinfoil on Turbos....
Possible missing nukes + Blackwater accused of snatching Iraqi aircraft + type of aircraft unnamed + multiple arab nations using the same model aircraft = "Mushroom Cloud Surprise"???? (and yes, the Iranians operate some of the same models-for instance both have used SU-25s)
Are we SURE that All the nukes are accounted for and that Blackwater failed in ALL attempts to grab soviet aircraft???
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 10:34 AM
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1. Incredibly weak premise
Iraq has mostly Soviet planes.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iraq/air-force-equipment.htm

Iran has mostly US planes

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/airforce-equipment.htm

If Blackwater wanted an aircraft, why wouldnt they just buy one? If I had the bucks, I can privately buy Mig 15, 17, 21& 23, as well as most Su models, as well as as WW2 German ME 262 jets.


WHile you are at it, make sure the aircraft is big enough to actually carry a cruise missle, not just some 330mm rockets, like the Su-25.

Lame crap.
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catnhatnh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 05:45 PM
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2. Yeah....except....
A sale leaves paperwork AND I never suggested it would carry or fire a cruise missile. I mentioned the SU 25 since it could (payload-wise) carry an ACM 129 (1700kg). My assumption was that only the warhead (read:nuclear device) would be dropped. Iraq had (and we FOUND) SU 25s as do Iran and many other Arab nations...While an entire ACM 129 has a diameter of 70.5 cm the warhead is probably less and I doubt that even a 28" diameter device would preclude a flight. From the point of view of faking an Iranian device a drop is infinitely preferable and plausible.
A drop like that in say, the Negev Desert, by a plane with Iranian markings and radar track would certainly get the ball rolling. Explain it as an abort and you don't have to even actually nuke a populated area...
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-20-07 09:40 PM
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3. I got thru the 1st 1/2
But the rest was confusion. Cut to the chase, is this about dropping a nuke on Iran?
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