Ghouliani to social conservatives: "Don't fear me"..."Christianity is all about inclusiveness"

[jefferson_dem]

"Christianity is all about inclusiveness – it's built around the most profound act of love in human history, isn't it?"

The response --- *crickets*.

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Giuliani made a mistake by undertaking to tell these religious voters a bit about Christianity. "We've got to find a way to be more inclusive," he said. "Christianity is all about inclusiveness – it's built around the most profound act of love in human history, isn't it?" No one applauded. Some FRC types whispered to each other that it was a pretty odd thing for Rudy Giuliani to lecture them about religion.

Giuliani then began to tiptoe around the fact that most of the audience didn't support him. "I'm not going to pretend to you that I can be all things to all people," he said. "I'm just not like that." From there, he hit the low point of his speech. "You have absolutely nothing to fear from me," he told the audience. Like Larry Craig's "I am not gay," that kind of statement tends to make people think precisely the opposite. At that moment, it looked like Giuliani's appearance might be a complete disaster.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2ZhNmQ4YjE4ODk2MmY0MzJkYWJhNDNkZGIzYTA0NTc=

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Newsday.com
Giuliani to social conservatives: "Don't fear me"
BY CRAIG GORDON

11:00 AM EDT, October 20, 2007

WASHINGTON

Rudy Giuliani made an intensely personal appeal to social conservatives gathered here this morning, telling them their common values are stronger than their differences with him and assuring them, "You have absolutely nothing to fear from me."

He also acknowledged to the group: "You and I know that I'm not a perfect person, I've made mistakes in my life, but I've always done the best that I could to learn from them."

Giuliani did not specifically mention his differences with this gathering of "values voters" over his support for abortion rights and gay rights, or back off from his support of a woman's legal right to choose an abortion. But he asked the group to hear him with an "open mind and an open heart" and respect him for not trying to change his mind simply to win their votes.

"Isn't it better that I tell you what I really believe, instead of pretending to change all of my positions?" Giuliani said. "I believe trust is more important than 100 percent agreement. . . .I'm not going to pretend to you I can be all things to all people, I'm just not like that."

Those comments also amounted to a thinly veiled shot at Mitt Romney, who has had trouble connecting with some voters here because of changes in his position on abortion. Giuliani said instead he would always be "honest" with these voters about their differences.

It was a high-stakes appearance for Giuliani, whom many in the crowd regard with deep distrust over his longstanding embrace of moderate stances on abortion and immigration, along with his previous marital difficulties. The prospect of him winning the GOP nomination has even prompted talk of a conservative third-party candidate. Also, the Family Research Council will announce the results of a straw poll at 3 p.m. today that will show just how difficult it will be for Giuliani to win over these voters as he seeks the Republican nomination.

http://www.newsday.com/ny-usrudy1021,0,2253149,print.story?coll=ny_home_rail_headlines

[xchrom]

1. ghouliani+fundies= a whole buch of people who

one way or another want to burn the country down.

[madrchsod]

2. not everyone is included into your cave... rudy

i`m sure christ disapproves of your message

[AtomicKitten]

3. These so-called Christians aren't particularly Christ-like.

posers

[ixion]

4. "Christianity is all about inclusiveness"

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:wow: :rofl:


Yeah. Right. Whatever. :eyes:

[monktonman]

5. If his personal life wasn't such a mess, they would embrace him.

I think they look at his positions and then take a peek at his personal
life and see the divorces and all the scandals and dont like it.
If your a fundie (or anyone else for that matter), here is a sorry little man that is not to be trusted. Learning from past mistakes my ass.

Romney on the other hand... yeah, he's flip-flopped on abortion. Then they take a peek at his personal life and although they dont like it, and dont like Mormans, I tend to think fundies will feel they can kinda trust him. He's a man of religious conviction after all.
So now he says he's anti-choice and based on his religious back round and his family history, they will end up feeling they can trust his word and if they elect him, they will be able to hold his feet to the fire and make him strip away a womens right to choose.
Just a thought.
Kool-aid anyone?

[Canuckistanian]

6. Inclusiveness??? Hahahahaha

They're just about the most narrow-minded, buttoned down, uptight, bigoted, judgmental, closed-down, isolated and anal retentive bunch of FREAKS I've EVER HEARD OF.