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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:11 PM Original message |
Obama Advisor Greg Craig: Clinton's Iran Stance "Naive" |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. I think it's naive to cut class and then act as if you went |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. ...Isn't he a Harvard graduate and constitutional scholar? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Not his education, his poor attendance record |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. He was out campaigning because Reid told him the vote wouldn't be that day. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. How come DUers knew the vote was scheduled that day? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I heard this from TalkingPointsMemo.com. If you think they're liars, great. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Hillary knew. Dodd knew. Biden knew. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. That has been repeated here & elsewhere by Obama supporters will ZERO evidence. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Seems reply #21 below quotes from the official senate record. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
35. The official Senate record creatively edited and taken out of context by Obama supporters |
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Ethelk2044 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
24. His attendance record and decision making ability beats her decision making skills any day |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Yup, because we know how well his decision to not drop McClurkin went over |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. ....I'm in a bad mood, I want to find fault here, but actually this reads as wise words. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama? Calling someone else "Naïve"? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. Damn straight! Although I don't know if it's naivete, or maybe she's |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I just wish Obama had VOTED |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. You seem to be having trouble sticking to the point. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Yup |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Why should we sanction them? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Would you rather we take military action? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. I'd rather we did neither. Which is obvious from my |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. this makes me sad. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:23 PM Response to Original message |
12. Obama felt so strongly about this he didn't bother to vote or say anything about it. . |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Good excuse not to actually read the original post. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:27 PM Response to Original message |
17. I almost wish it WAS about naivete... |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You might want to read this from DUer Obamian... |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:49 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. But hasn't he missed quite a few controversial votes?? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Obama said he would have voted no before the actual vote, as I understand, altho he was on the |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I guess we could make a case that members of Congress... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. And if it was so crucial that he can beat up Clinton about |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. There wasn't time. Obama is not the only Dem attacking Clinton on her vote today. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. She definitely should be questioned about her vote... |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. I'm not arguing against questioning her vote. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. It doesn't take long to fly back from NH |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
31. I love how Obama supporters cut out key elements. |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Ah, they were calling it a night. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. And Reid as 1st order of business next day annouced they were getting back into it |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It looks like Obama doesn't like to go on the record about some things... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
37. I'll defend it with 1 hyphenated word: NON-BINDING n/t |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. And you actually think that will stop Bush from using it to help justify bombing Iran? |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:33 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. It certainly eliminates all the theorizing in the OP. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. I have yet to hear a rational explanation as to why someone would sign onto Kyl-Lieberman. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. I've posted plenty of rational explanations |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I see no need for Kyl-Lieberman other than to gin up a case for war with Iran. None. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. #48 n/t |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Bush got exactly what he wanted from K-L and today Kyl and Lieberman praised Condi's move. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The same Condi Obama voted to confirm? |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 06:31 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Yes, the same Condi that Hillary voted to confirm. See roll call link below. |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Hillary is neither my candidate of choice nor my Senator. |
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flpoljunkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Do you have a candidate? |
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dogman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-26-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. No. |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. What's said in this piece is not as damaging |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. interesting comment |
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desi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 07:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Greg is still one of the GOOD Guys |
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DemFemme (315 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
41. Hillary's good at handing out blank checks for war. |
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superkia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-25-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
52. Clinton is no different than Bush on war, she speaks just like him. |
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