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Sun Oct-28-07 12:02 PM
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My response to the the Clinton mantra, "what happened to the politics of hope?":
The politics of hope includes telling people what you think and where you stand. The politics of hopes includes having a vision for where you want the country to go. The politics of hope includes Independents and Republicans, not just Democrats. The politics of hope includes increasing participation in our political process. The politics of hope includes leadership, not triangulation. The politics of hope includes inspiration, not the "safe answer". The politics of hope includes making differences between candidates, both policy and personal, crystal clear to voters.
So, as my young students would say:
Word up Senator Clinton, this is what the Politics of hope looks like, get over it.
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:04 PM
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:25 PM
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4. Sure thing! And welcome to the DU... |
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there ARE more Obama supporters here. Many more. :hi:
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Mon Oct-29-07 07:08 AM
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35. Thanks for leaving out his horrific gaff of supporting anti-gay bigotry!! |
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I guess he was right when he "hoped" his supporters wouldn't care!! Obama/McClurkin '08!
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:21 PM
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3. any other obama supporters out there? |
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:27 PM
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5. They're on other threads defending Obama against the latest attacks. |
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:50 PM
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37. Those EVIL homersexuals! |
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Why can't they just stay home!
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:58 PM
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41. Trying to rain on the hetero parade |
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What with the wanting equal treatment and other silliness. What a bunch of drama queens!
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Mon Oct-29-07 07:01 PM
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44. Don't they know ...... |
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There are gay ALLLLLL OVER THE WORLD!
But not Korea, not Korea!
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Mon Oct-29-07 07:03 PM
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:25 PM
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19. thanks for the support!! |
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:39 PM
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6. Where's the leadership |
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in triangulating for votes on gay rights
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:42 PM
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9. You, a Hillary supporter, are accusing OBAMA of triangulating? |
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:49 PM
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:52 PM
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11. Hillary's my second choice |
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and glad you think trampling all over gay people is hysterical. Have fun with that.
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:58 PM
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14. Who's trampling all over gay people? |
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:eyes: He strongly supports gay rights.
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:06 PM
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tell that to his "good friend" Tom Coburn.
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:35 PM
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23. Yeah, they created a bill for an OPEN database of government spending. |
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:48 PM
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25. I don't get this post? |
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Sun Oct-28-07 03:07 PM
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29. The above referenced Tom Coburn as some kind of slap to Obama. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-28-07 03:08 PM by NYCGirl
I mentioned they co-sponsored a bill together, a damn good one at that. Whether Tom Coburn is a Republican, bigot, or whatever has no bearing on Obama's "relationship" with Tom Coburn.
Edited for typo
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Sun Oct-28-07 03:09 PM
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I get it now, appreciate the clarification!!!
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:39 PM
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7. watch the debate Tues. 10/30!!! |
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:58 PM
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26. Obama is going to be positively brillant!!! |
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Sun Oct-28-07 02:03 PM
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27. He'll be doing a "MTV/MySpace Presidential Dialogue" tomorrow at 1:30ET |
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Sun Oct-28-07 03:11 PM
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31. should also be excellent!!! |
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:56 PM
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12. The end of fear, the beginning of hope. |
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The '04 Kucinich campaign.
I've noticed that several candidates now pepper their rhetoric with "hope."
Which is good and appropriate, if they really offer hope. I hear more rhetoric than hope from some.
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Sun Oct-28-07 12:58 PM
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Sun Oct-28-07 03:13 PM
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32. thanks for the support from one newbie to another!!! |
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:15 PM
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17. word up? do your students still reside in the late 80's? nt |
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:23 PM
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18. thanks for observation |
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no actually, the language has gotten slightly rougher than that, but I never like to repeat "foul language":patriot: Unlike many current Hillary supporters!!!
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:28 PM
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20. I was with you 'til ou got to the part about the republicans |
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They don't play well with others. In general, though, Right On!
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:32 PM
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but one can always "hope"!! thanks for the support!!:patriot:
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:30 PM
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21. K&R. This is what I like most about Obama. |
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Frankly, I don't think he'll get the nomination this time, but he has a great vision. Maybe someday hihs time will come. He is a great asset to the Party and to America.
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Sun Oct-28-07 01:37 PM
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24. thanks for your support, too |
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you may be right, but one never knows until all the votes are cast!!!:patriot:
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Sun Oct-28-07 03:34 PM
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33. Hillary's "hope" is that she doesn't get caught trying to sell her bullshit |
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to the american people but it time to expose her for what she is, a calculating, inexperienced, pandering, say anything, do anything politician to fool the american people for their support. And you know the sad part is, she has Billy Boy as her sidekick in this despicable drama. Barack Obama, the time is right now to turn up the volume on "Queen Bee" and as any property owner would command his canine with trespassers, Go Sic Em!!!:nuke:
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Mon Oct-29-07 04:26 PM
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36. Politics of "hope you quit being a homo and start loving Jesus" |
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Big mess. Big mess of playing the race card and the religion card at the same time. Callousness. Duplicity. Tone-deafness. Incredulous incredulity.
I don't think he can recover from this one.
I don't think he deserves to recover from this one.
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Mon Oct-29-07 07:07 PM
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46. Stupidest. Strategy. Ever. |
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:53 PM
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38. We HOPE you homos will find Jeeeesus! |
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Edited on Mon Oct-29-07 05:53 PM by ronnykmarshall
And stop your evil ways!!
PRAISE!!!
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:54 PM
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39. The politics of hope includes hoping that those pesky gay folk go away? |
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Or is letting supporters accuse them all of just being shills for other candidates enough?
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:56 PM
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Allow McCurkin to tell an audience, which statistically is bound to have some young GLBT members in it, that God hates homosexuality.
Politics of Hope replaced by Politics of Self-Hatred.
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Mon Oct-29-07 05:59 PM
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42. I agree, except obama is not the candidate who is doing the things you listed. Biden is |
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actually doing these things better than obama. I like to think of Biden as a more seasoned obama who's more sure of himself. my 2 cents
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Mon Oct-29-07 06:16 PM
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43. The Politics of New Hope |
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The politics of hope includes telling people what they want to hear The politics of hopes includes having a vision of a glorious idyllic future The politics of hope includes compromising a firm agenda to Independent and Republicans policy The politics of hope includes increasing participation in political contributions. The politics of hope includes leadership, not correcting mistakes The politics of hope includes inspiration, not achievable goals The politics of hope includes crystal clear wedging wherever possible.
And yes, all the candidates have strayed into New Hope all the time.
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Mon Oct-29-07 08:36 PM
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Biden... I like your post. Further reinforcing why Biden has my vote. No rhetoric
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Mon Oct-29-07 09:37 PM
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48. Hope ... Obama learns his lesson from this fiasco. |
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