Tyranny or Freedom?

[jansu]

"When the people fear the government you have tyranny; when the government fears the people you have liberty."
-- Thomas Jefferson

What can we do to make sure that we have liberty?

[diamondsoul]

1. Vote for Kucinich,

and then convince him that very quote is why he needs to amend his gun control position.

[lcordero]

8. HOLY

and then convince him that very quote is why he needs to amend his gun control position.

:toast:

More Progressives are leaning this way?

[diamondsoul]

9. There have been some discussions

on the Kucinich volunteer boards that convinced me the second amendment needs some serious protection and the AWB is a dangerous precident.

I used to be a strong proponent of gun control, and I still do worry about some things, but it seems to me with many of Kucinich's plans gun violence will decrease without the extra infringements on the second amendment.

[lcordero]

11. ahhhh

So a lot of people are starting to catch on to that guns don't cause gun violence, poverty causes gun violence.

[Feanorcurufinwe]

2. Campaign, donate, vote, and protest.

[pezcore64]

3. hum

short of rebuilding the government all over again from the buttom up, i have no clue.

[jansu]

7. Bottom up!

I agree! All of us who will not roll over and vote in this primary for the chosen one, (but will vote ABB come November) MUST start at our local level. Get the people's candidates into the City Hall, on the school boards, County Supervisors, Mayors, Governors, House and Senate AND THEN WE CAN TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY WITH THE RIGHT PRESIDENT! I may not live long enough to see the promised land, but I am willing to work my butt off to see that my children and grandchildren are not slaves to the corporations and government!

Our work is just beginning! Never give up, never surrender!

[redqueen]

4. Vote Kucinich

The others voted with BUSH on the patriot act, to sell your freedoms out from under you.

[Fargin Ice Hole]

5. No chance at this stage of the game..........

Power has already shifted to far out of the peoples hands. The people have already shown there game face and it's a complacent sheep stare.

"Fascism should rightly be called Corporatism as it is a merge of state and corporate power." -Benito Mussilini

[redqueen]

6. LOL! 'complacent sheep stare'

How fitting!

You want our votes for pres, but you voted with bush? SURE!

You want our votes for pres, but you echo bush's lies about the war? SURE!

You want our votes for pres, but you won't fight for us? OKILY DOKILY!

[Fargin Ice Hole]

10. Bahhhhhhhhhhhh

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[BL_Zebub]

12. Make sure that the November ballot is not PNAC vs PNAC

because there are no winners in that contest :evilfrown:

[Kanary]

13. Liberty?

First of all, we have to make the concrete decision that we're all in this together, and come from behind our walls and care about each other, and start valuing each other.

Then, we MUST start working together instead of bashing each other, and make our voices heard.

We've done it before in the history of this country, and we can do it again.

What we have to learn from is that before we let up pressure too soon.

This time, if we make it that far, we have to keep pressin'.

Kanary, who is itchin' to find some fightin' compatriots