Biden, Kucinich true Oval Office material

[PatSeg]

From the Badger Herald:

Something is wrong in the search for the next president of the United States. The contest for the next Oval Office resident began surprisingly early; however, very few quality candidates are catching the attention of the American public. This is not to claim a lack of potentially effective leaders, but they are being ignored, chastised and ridiculed.

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Conservatives are quick to remind the nation that they are the party of national security through a tough foreign policy. While this may be, the Democratic Party has a candidate of its own who possesses one of the most intellectually informed foreign policy minds on the planet, U.S. Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del. An ethical man of modest finances, he has served on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee for three decades and released, almost one year ago, a realistic solution to Iraq that involves breaking the nation out of its arbitrary Churchillian borders to three states that reflect the true demographic situation. He seems a perfect fit, given our present situation, to take office in Washington, yet with little publicity and limited finances, his poll numbers remain in the single digits.

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This is the dilemma we face in electing our next president. It is not a want of good candidates, but the lack of knowledge the American public has of them. It is a foregone conclusion that neither Mr. Biden nor Mr. Kucinich will become our next president. I would like a reason why.

http://badgerherald.com/oped/2007/11/12/biden_kucinich_true_.php

[Dover]

1. Kucinich and Biden don't belong in the same sentence together...n/t

[Steely_Dan]

3. Quite The Contrary

I see them complmenting each other.

-Paige

[mtnsnake]

2. The only way I figure it is that Kucinich is too honest & straightforward to get a deserving chance

I guess he's just not as politically savvy as the rest of the field, and I mean that as a compliment to Dennis. Kucinich is a living example of how out of touch with reality that the voters in this country are. It seems they'd rather invest in fantasy than reality.

[riqster]

5. Sad, but true.

Having said that, DK is also the candidate I'd most like to have a beer with. So maybe integrity and honesty can work in today's environment.

[DangerDave921]

4. Here's why

Biden: Because he can't muster enough popular support (even though he should). This really isn't justified because he's an excellent candidate.

Dennis: Because he's very fringe and too weird.

[DemBones DemBones]

8. Dennis Kucinich is the most progressive candidate

in the race and you dismiss him as "fringe" and "weird"???

[DangerDave921]

10. Why yes

Yes I do. In the overall scheme of a NATIONAL election, Dennis is too fringe and too weird to be elected by a majority of the country.

Even in the DEM primaries, he gets no traction. What does that tell you? And what would that portend in a national election?

[youthere]

6. Indeed..I would like a reason why as well...

Biden is the best candidate running...I can't get over it when people say "Biden's the best, but he doesn't stand a chance, so I'm supporting _________".

[LWolf]

7. More:

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The other Democratic candidate who receives little attention — and when he does, it’s frivolously negative — is U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio. Perfectly representing the liberal ideology other candidates only pay lip service to, he has stood up for what he and much of the country believes in. He has been a member of the House of Representatives for 10 years and has avidly advanced the liberal agenda, pushing for federally subsidized health care, same-sex marriage, preventing privatized social security and getting our troops out of Iraq. He has been the leading lawmaker in pushing for executive impeachments of the Bush administration, formally calling for the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney in April. While these should serve as rallying points for a popular run at becoming the Democratic candidate for president, he is laughed at. Attention seems to be focused more on his stature — he’s 5 feet, 7 inches — than his record. Or you have what happened at the last Democratic debate, where he is remembered not for his continued reminders that he was right on the Iraq issue, but how he answered the last question given to him. Mr. Kucinich was asked, of all things, if it was true that he had once seen an unidentified flying object.

CNN, the sponsor of the debate, should be ashamed for asking that question. They ended that debate by reminding the American people that this man’s name was not Clinton, Obama or Edwards. Instead of allowing Mr. Kucinich’s policies to echo through the electorate, his UFO sighting is remembered; it becomes him.

[jillan]

9. What's funny about this, is that I have come across many people on DU that like Biden and Kucinich

the best, even tho they are as different as nite and day.

I am one of them.

[PatSeg]

11. Me too

I see Kucinich as an idealist, but not necessarily executive material. Biden is an idealist who is also pragmatic. He knows how to get things done.

[gateley]

12. Add me to the list of people who like Biden AND Kucinich! I think it speaks

highly of both of them because as you mention, Pirhana, they're very different in their appeal, but I don't think they're that far apart in their beliefs.

[hayu_lol]

13. The only way these two would be material for the oval office...

is if they could be woven together to make a rug.

[justinrr1]

14. Biden is our best candidate

I hope the people of Iowa realize this real soon or else I fear we are headed for our third straight narrow defeat.