How Clark can save all dems from the GOP getting their dream opponenent

[Bombtrack]

DOCTOR DEAVIL

not a flame bait, trying to be light-hearted

[Cheswick2.0]

1. he could drop out?

Clark could drop out. That would be the best solution.

[deminflorida]

3. Thanks Al...

That's good advice from a guy who dropped out first.

[poskonig]

2. Hahahahahah

The GOP is funding Dean..... you're SO funny!!! </SARCASM>

[Bombtrack]

4. Yeah and Newsweek along with various local papers are just a laugh riot

when they report the same thing

[HFishbine]

9. Source? Link?

All those sources, surely you can share one with us.

Also, your orginal post violates the new rules.

[deminflorida]

5. That's funny as hell....

n/t

[mopinko]

6. gop?

this is being kicked around. is there any evidence of this???

[Bombtrack]

7. Newsweek and various small papers around the country report it

Mostly accounts of individual repubs admitting to sending him money and telling others to do so in the locals.

But newsweek speculated on the overall fraction of the CERTAIN GOP/Bush supporter money he was getting that others other than Sharpton weren't getting

[clarknyc]

11. Please.

Would you post a link that is more than speculation to back up your assertion? Thanks.

[poskonig]

12. That's not a newsworthy story.

Of course a few individual Republicans may do something like that. Are they a significant source of Dean contributions? Categorically no. If Newsweek does report that, the story is nothing more than a smear.

I'm starting to really, really hate the Democratic establishment.

[Bombtrack]

19. So I am the democratic establishment now ?

Well I hate Dean, and so do more democrats probably than like him, although you'll notice we don't go around labeling our opponent(s) as the establishment, or repub-lite, or any other empty, unfounded, insult that Dean and Dean-supporters are so fond of

[poskonig]

20. Liberal media elites running baseless smears

does burn my cookies. Yes, they are elites -- there are only a handful of companies (that Clark wants to dereg even more btw) that own most of the media in the United States.

[Cheswick2.0]

13. considering Clark has republicans running his campaign

I am stunned you would want to continue with this comparison.

[maddezmom]

16. who are the repugs?

how many and who are they?

[lurk_no_more]

24. With the 40 Republican fund raisers dean hired

Why wouldn't he continue with this comparison?

Noted Republican endorses Dean
http://rutlandherald.com/hdean/72150

<snip>
Hilary Cleveland of New London, wife of the late Congressman James Cleveland, and a prominent campaigner for both President Bushes, is helping organize a Republicans for Dean movement.

Dean announced the names of 40 Republicans who will serve on a steering committee. Cleveland says she’s been a lifelong Republican, but will switch her registration to independent so she can vote for Dean in the presidential primary.

Cleveland was the New London co-chairwoman for George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign and was the state finance chairwoman for Bush’s father in 1980.

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So Clark speaks at a republican fundraiser while dean hires republican fundraisers, and just who do you think these republican fundraisers will be contacting to raise funds for mr.dean?



Food for thought from….“JAFO”

[HFishbine]

25. This is far different than the subtrefuge that's being implied

This is crossover appeal.

[clarknyc]

17. Keep trying!

Something's gotta stick!

[clarknyc]

8. No.

Otherwise, a thread would have been posted with credible links for all to see. Am I wrong?

[Bombtrack]

18. "Should Republicans Help Nominate Howard Dean?"

http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_6309.shtml

Should Republicans Help Nominate Howard Dean?

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Exclusive commentary by CK Rairden



Aug 6, 2003


Republicans are already voting with their wallets for Howard Dean, logging on to Dean’s official Web Site and donating various sums of cash to the left wing candidate’s primary campaign. They want Dean to win the Democrat primary. The real question now emerges. Will rank and file Republicans cross over and vote in the Democrat Primary elections to help get Dean the nomination?

Howard Dean is a dream candidate for two particular sides of the body politic. First, the angry disgruntled liberal wing that has taken over the Democrat Party and second Americans that want to see President George W. Bush re-elected.

Howard Dean is even more to Bush advisor Karl Rove. Dean is a Karl Rove wet dream. He is an anti-war liberal in a time when soccer moms have become security conscious. Dean has also promised to raise taxes if elected president. These are two losing platforms that have a McGovernesque train wreck written all over it. The GOP now has to consider whether they will now take an even more active role in securing the nomination for Howard Dean...
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And I guess no national review readers who baught the "please nominate this man" Dean cover issue would EVER consider reading "help" between the lines and actually do just that, particularly in states like NH where helping to nominate weaker candidates is a GOP tradition

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A47290-2003Dec8¬Found=true

[HFishbine]

22. An opinion piece with no substantiation

Not credible.

[clarknyc]

23. Exactly.

Just an opinion. Something substantive on this topic would be nice for a change...

[deminflorida]

10. Here it is....

"The newest supporter of former Gov. Howard Dean of Vermont is super-lobbyist Ron Book, who is a host for a Dean presidential campaign fund-raiser later this month. Wait a minute! Isn't this the same Book who raises money for President Bush and his baby brother, Jeb? "This is money for the Democratic primary," Book quickly points out. In other words, Dean now is running only against Democrats, so any money Book raises will not hurt Bush. ..."

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/columnists/sfl-cpol06dec06,0,4315209.column?coll=sfla-news-col

[clarknyc]

15. The GOP?

Or an individual donation? I'm sure we could dig up some GOP donors to Clark, as well...

[HFishbine]

21. There it isn't

Ron Brook has a long history of supporting democratic candidates. He's financialy contributed to:

Torricelli for Senate
Debbie Wasserman Schultz for Congress
Gephardt for President
Kendrick Meek Campaign for Congress
Peter Deutsch for Congress
Patsy Kurth for Congress
Bill Nelson for Senate
Elaine Bloom for Congress
Erskine Bowles for US Senate
Alex Penalas US Senate Campaign
Citizens for Biden 2002
Bob Graham for President
Friends of Byron Dorgan
Kennedy for Senate 2000
Citizens for Mark Shriver
Friends of John Conyers
Freinds of Patrick J Kennedy
Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee
Bill Bradley for President

Democrats all. No record of a contribution to the Dean campaign though.

http://www.tray.com/cgi-win/indexhtml.exe?MBF=NAME

[StClone]

14. Could it be

The big tax cuts gave the Publican backers so much money they foolish maxed out doling to BushCo and still had money to piss away. Monkey wrenching around by donating to "Big Easy" Dean was the gambit, albeit ill-conceived, by a few dimly lit GOPers... guess those that threw money at Dean are now holding their breath until Nov. 2004.

[Moderator]

26. Locking.......

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