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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:39 PM Original message |
Either/Or Nonsense. I'm fed up with False Choices. Ideals are pragmatic. |
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ibegurpard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. Except for the last paragraph |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's why I'm so happy that we finally have a chance to elect |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. You're a Kucinich supporter now? |
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Feanorcurufinwe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
23. You're welcome to your opinion even if it has no relation to reality |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Reality is |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. In case you haven't noticed, |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. The Elite feed the media |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That was very telling, in fact. |
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kiahzero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. But they weren't true |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. You missed Dean's point. He was using Wellstone's words |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. I had not |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:37 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Yes, I didn't misunderstand. |
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edzontar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks for this reasonable statement of principle. |
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unfrigginreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
5. Thanks |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
8. My thoughts exactly - what a wasted opportunity |
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revcarol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
9. I have been waiting 42 years for the Dems to be Dems. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. "Chibbles"? |
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revcarol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. No, chibbles are crumbs. |
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lovedems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
10. I was watching Clinton's former cheif of staff on Charlie Rose last night |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. I disagree |
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lovedems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Talk is cheap, but terrible ideas are cheaper |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:32 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Social issues and Economic Power Issues |
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lastliberalintexas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. That's one reason I dislike the DLC/Clinton style Dems |
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lovedems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:34 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. I hear what you are saying but we need to be realistic too. |
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RichM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'd have liked to see the primary season develop like this: instead of |
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janx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Yeah. The cramming together, or "front loading" of the |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:09 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. no moral center |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Well I think we're stuck with that but you're right |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. I'm almost COMPLETELY in agreement with this statement |
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ulysses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:30 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. that's classic triangulation, though. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Oh I agree but let's parse how they do it |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. I believe it's possible to create win/win situations |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:44 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Fine but you need to get that through a hostile congress |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. That's always inevitable |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:03 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. On the rank and file issues of the day, I really don't see the public |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I started the thread by making the same point |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:51 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Fine but I see Dean's loss as being multifactorial |
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Ramsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
18. Indeed |
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HalfManHalfBiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
20. That is why we are rallying around Kerry |
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MidwestMomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
21. I think the Democratic Party also fails at supporting women and minority |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I agree |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
32. Well said, but I'll be voting Green. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. You make a good point but still no reason to let the real bastids win |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
46. Well, I must confess, that it's easy for me to vote Green. "Safe State". |
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snoochie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 02:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. I understand |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-21-04 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
41. Kinda Like You're Either Anti-War or Pro-War |
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