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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:05 PM
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Gallup: Hillary beats all Republicans...Obama tied with Guiliani
Hillary 49
Guiliani 44

Hillary 50
McCain 44

Hillary 54
Romney 38

Hillary 53
Thompson 40


Obama 45
Guiliani 45

Obama 47
McCain 44

Obama 52
Romney 35

Obama 51
Thompson 38

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102862/Democratic-Candidates-Look-Good-Latest-2008-Trial-Heats.aspx
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:08 PM
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1. K&R
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:14 PM
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2. Yes, pretty obvious we stand a better chance with Hillary as the Nom against the Repuglies..
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:18 PM
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4. Tell, I agree and HRC has said so in many of her speeches,
and I agree.There is a post here about HRC giving a speech at a gathering over the weekend and saying she can beat any of the republicans.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:26 PM
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40. Yes, Hillary is a realist unlike some who "talk" a good game but cannot deliver..
cannot even consistently deliver the salient points of his platform.

Oy vey! :-)
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:42 PM
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44. Yep,
I think Hillary has the best chance in the GE, Biden second if he makes it.
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ilovesunshine Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:15 PM
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3. Oh comeon! These numbers must be fixed!
You mean, Hillary actually has a snowballs chance in hell of winning this for us?

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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:19 PM
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5. Of course they are
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 12:22 PM by ronnykmarshall
:eyes: :sarcasm:

Oh and welcome to HillaryBashUnderground ..... I mean DU.
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ilovesunshine Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:20 PM
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8. Thanks Ronny!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:20 PM
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7. Once again,fact slaps the face of popular DU fiction.nt
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:20 PM
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6. K&R!
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jemsan Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:23 PM
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10. Don't they put Edwards in the polls anymore?????
Just another way to marginalize and ignore Edwards.....don'dt even poll for him.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:22 PM
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9. Wow,
It would be cool if Gallup thought there was more than two Dems in this race. It's great what money can buy in America.


My pick.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:18 PM
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20. Clinton Sustains Huge Lead in Democratic Nomination Race..
November 16, 2007

Hopefully, Iowans will understand the race is Nationwide is the important race..

Leads Obama by 27 points in new poll

PRINCETON , NJ -- In the national standings of the Democratic presidential candidates seeking their party's nomination next year, New York Sen. Hillary Clinton continues to hold a strong 27-point lead over second-place rival Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, according to a new Gallup Poll. Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards remains further behind in third place.

According to the Nov. 11-14, 2007, poll, 48% of Democrats say they are most likely to support Clinton for the party’s presidential nomination in 2008, followed by Obama at 21% and Edwards at 12%. No other candidate garners more than 4% support.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/102799/Clinton-Sustains-Huge-Lead-Democratic-Nomination-Race.aspx
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:23 PM
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11. Of course she does,
She's much closer to the republicans positions then Obama. It's easier for right leaning independents to say they'll vote for Hillary.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:26 PM
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12. "She's much closer to the republicans positions then Obama." Nah
They're almost identical.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:58 PM
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29. "Nah"?!? --> "They're almost identical" - ask any other selective reader, they too will agree...
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:02 PM
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32. would you like to compare them issue by issue?
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ilovesunshine Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:31 PM
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13. I agree, and that's what will win Hillary the race.
Even though many don't support the war now, they did when they were lied to by President Bush.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:35 PM
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15. Was Obamas' appearance on the 700 club
an attempt to court left leaning independents?
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:48 PM
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16. That's quite the leap of logic.
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 12:48 PM by TwilightZone
How about left-leaning independents? Are they voting for Obama?

Your assertion seems to be based on the presumption that there are more right-leaning independents than left-leaning ones. Have any proof of that?
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:31 PM
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14. IIRC...we don't have to join any "kingdoms or be prayerful to choose ."
or diss the GLBT community..Or be sh*t outta Luck because we are Baby Boomers..

What a relief. We have a candidate, Sen Clinton, with brilliant problem solving skills who is able to represent everyone!

And to boot- she can beat every Republican challenger in the GE...How fortuitous is that?

Bravo!
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:38 PM
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21. It is Still Close Enough for the Repiggies to Steal It
and the Mighty Slime Machine has been going easy on HRC lately
(because their owners want HRC to win the Dem nomination).

Why is it so close?

People say they want "a Democrat" to be the next president by double-digit margins.
Seems like they still don't like Hillary Clinton very much.


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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:40 PM
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35. Andy.. FYI..Hillary hasn't even begun to take on the Repuglies
Edited on Mon Nov-26-07 05:44 PM by Tellurian
Again, Andy, FYI..the Republican attack machine is afraid of a Hillary Clinton nomination, because they know she is dealing from strength. During the WH years it was defend, defend, defend. Hillary is now the moving party. That, my friend is a horse of another color.

Hillary is the strongest "DEMocrat" by far in the Race. Obama has to answer questions soon put forth by the FEC that could invariably call into question the rule breaking of campaign finance laws reflecting badly on him. Edwards has a scum-bucket Senate Record that has not been called into question yet nor been used against him in the race.

Neither of the later two candidates pass the "sniff" test for the "honesty and integrity" requirements of a Primary States' Caucus.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 06:40 PM
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37. She Is Going to Take on the Repiggies How?

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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:14 PM
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39. She's been taking them on for over 20 yrs.
How? Wait and see.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 12:59 PM
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17. K & R n/t
:kick:
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:11 PM
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18. New poll shows Clinton trails top 2008 Republicans
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:17 PM
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19. Good links!
Thanks!
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:44 PM
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23. Zogby's is an online poll
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:46 PM
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24. Online poll
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:49 PM
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25. An online poll?...
:rofl:
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:57 PM
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28. Did anyone mention that this was an online poll?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:33 PM
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41. No, I would have heard something about it. if it was an online poll
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:59 PM
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30. Please stop lying
The Zogby poll is not a random sampling, it is made up of people who choose to participate in an online survey. It has no statistical relevance.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 06:06 AM
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54. It's self-selecting and comprised completely of those who
who use a computer. The demographic group least likely to use a computer? Older women. The demographic group most likely to vote? Older women. Do you see the problem now, or are you just going to ignore my post?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:47 AM
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55. and phone polls use demographics that ignore the youth who don't use land lines!
they use cell phones , computers and blackberries..but many many do not use land lines.

i know my son and none of his friends use land lines..neither do all my friends 20+ age kids.

fly
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 09:50 AM
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56. OK, but young people are far less likely to vote than
older women. All polls are fraught with various pitfalls, but internet polls have more of them.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:02 AM
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57. ahhh the youth voted in record numbers in 2004..that is a false assumption on your part.eom
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:02 AM by flyarm
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:04 AM
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58. no, it's not, not even remotely.
Edited on Tue Nov-27-07 10:07 AM by cali
yes, youth voted in record numbers in 2004. Did they vote in the same numbers as older women? Not. Even. Close.

http://www.census.gov/popest/states/asrh/
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 05:47 PM
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36. w4rma.. did you know it was an online poll?
:rofl:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:42 PM
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22. kick
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:54 PM
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26. Too bad she is falling behind in Iowa and New Hampshire where they really know her. nt
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 01:55 PM
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27. SHow me a single poll where she has fallen behind in New Hampshire...nt
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:00 PM
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31. Am I reading that wrong, or is that data two weeks old?
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:06 PM
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33. 12 days & Gallup usually releases one a month....This is for November.
The poll of 897 registered voters nationwide was conducted Nov. 11-14, 2007.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 02:55 PM
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34. So sweet!!!
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 09:22 PM
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38. So what? Obama used to lead Guiliani in the same poll.
In July the Gallup match-up had Obama ahead of Rudy by five points, and today it's zero points.

So Obama only dropped five measly points! Big whoop.

In the same poll, in July Hillary led Rudy by 4 points and now she leads him by 5 points. So Hillaty's lead over Giuliani only went up one point.

Ooooh! One whole point. Am I supposed to be impressed by that?

You Hillarybots are pathetic... all you care about is winning the general election. Get over it.
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:37 PM
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42. And what election might you care about winning?
PS It doesn't do much good to win the primary if you can't win the GE.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:40 PM
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43. This is surprising coming from you:
"You Hillarybots are pathetic." I didn't think you were part of the name calling crowd.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:44 PM
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45. Seasoned Blue, you may have noticed that I do not believe in sarcasm tags
The sarcasm tag defeats the whole purpose of sarcasm, IMHO... sarcasm without ambiguity is merely snide.

I was just saving the most chronic poll-detractors a few key-strokes.

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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:02 PM
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48. Sorry Kurt
I should have known lol. :thumbsup:
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:45 PM
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46. According to Rasmussen - Biden ties with Rudy and Mitt.
:)!

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Mutineer Donating Member (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 10:47 PM
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47. If HRC is the nominee, we will NOT win the GE in November '08
There. I said it.
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Josiah1982 Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:06 PM
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49. She is the ONLY candidate running who can win in the general election
There. I said that.:silly:
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Godhumor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:07 PM
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50. Along with lots of others on DU
One way or another, there is going to be a lot of anger and teasing when our candidate is decided.

This place is going to be like an online bloodbath.
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Azathoth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-26-07 11:11 PM
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51. Gee, Obama's numbers are 2-4 points behind Hillary's 12 months before the election
:boring:
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wiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:35 AM
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52. Support the writer's on strike!
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 05:38 AM
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53. But this truth will never make it to the front page of DU.
Twilight zone these days.

Nobody seems happy about Democratic successes.

Thanks for trying.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:40 AM
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59. kick
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Phunktified Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-27-07 10:54 AM
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60. The problem is...
Gallup in 2006 effectively ended their partnership with CNN (although they still occasionally partner). So a lot of their polling goes under the radar without a major media outlet to back it up. The truth is their tracking poll and state polls have always been whacky but they are an organization with a long history and they poll frequently (unlike ABC/WaPo) so at least there's some points of comparison.
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