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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:33 PM
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Kerry/Edwards supporters: tell me your candidate's positions on...
...these 5 issues:

1) preserving the last remaining stands of old-growth forests, in the Americas and overseas
2) modifying existing trade treaties to incorporate wage and environmental protections
3) allowing states to incorporate medical marijuana as a prescribable pain/nausea remedy
4) increasing the top marginal tax rate, and/or creating additional rate brackets
5) regulating the introduction of GMOs into the ecosystem

I've looked at the candidates' websites, but I haven't found direct commentary on these topics yet. Also, there may be things they've said in campaign or congressional speeches, or written in articles and books that you know about and I don't. Please enlighten this voter.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:49 PM
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1. Check tthe Kucinich site. ( You "forgot" the best one.)
www.kucinich.us

PURE GOLD THERE.

Especially WTO, NAFTA, GMfoods, old forests, medical marijuana no problem,tax rates_ very progressive, You won't find MORE ACTUAL DETAIL ABOUT HOW HE WOULD PRACTICALLY CARRY PLANS OUT.!!
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:05 PM
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3. Kucinich isn't headed for the nomination, that's why I "forgot" him
I'm well aware of Kucinich's incredibly progressive platform.

I'm hoping to find out what the two leading candidates propose along these lines, and I hope you're at least as interested as I am.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:30 PM
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11. Kerry's positions on the environment are sterling.
Over his twenty years as a senator, his record on the environment is the only one endorsed by environmental groups.

Old growth forests are my passionate interest, and I trust Kerry implicitly to preserve what few stands are left, that aren't owned by private corporations.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 08:50 PM
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2. Edwards Site
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:14 PM
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4. Can you be more specific?
I've already been through his site. The position statements there on old growth forests (not just Tsongass), GMOs, medical marijuana, and modification of existing treaties are vague at best, and his position on increasing corporate fiscal responsibility appears at odds with the proposed 10% tax incentive to corporations that hire Americans. Help me cut through to any specific positions he has on these matters; what, exactly, is John Edwards proposing to do?
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:35 PM
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5. Some answers
The difference between us and George Bush is one of vision. Where we see a pristine wilderness or a scenic coast, George Bush sees an oil field. Where we see a beautiful mountaintop, George Bush sees a strip mine. Where we see a pristine old growth forest, George Bush sees toothpicks. And where we see an opportunity to join the global community to fight global warming, George Bush sees a chance to curry favor with his buddies in the oil business.

They don’t think you are going to notice. They think that the American people can be misled by false names. Chop down mountainsides of old growth trees and call it Healthy Forests. Increase the pollution in the air and call it Clear Skies. They believe as long as they use the right words, the American people can be deceived. But we don’t get fooled that easy.
http://www.oneworld.net/article/view/77182/1



WASHINGTON -July 14, 1999- A coalition of over 100 Representatives and Senators announced their intention to pass the Act to Save America’s Forests, legislation to reverse a century of wasteful and destructive logging practices in the federal forest system.

The Act’s authors, Representative Anna Eshoo and Senator Robert Torricelli, joined with lead cosponsors Rep. Carolyn Maloney, Rep. Michael Forbes, and Sen. John Kerry, as well as Save America’s Forests Executive Director Carl Ross, to mark the reintroduction of the Act in the U.S. House and Senate with the highest level of support in the bill’s legislative history.

"I want to thank Representatives Eshoo, Maloney, and Forbes, and Senators Torricelli and Kerry for their courageous work in Congress to stop the wasteful destruction of our national forests. This new, unprecedented level of support shows that the Act to Save America’s Forests can run the gauntlet of logging company lobbyists and become law," said Ross.
http://www.saveamericasforests.org/news/Release071499.htm
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Review Existing Trade Agreements. John Kerry will also order an immediate 120 day review of all existing trade agreements to ensure that our trade partners are living up to their labor and environment obligations and that trade agreements are enforceable and are balanced for America’s workers. He will consider necessary steps if they are not. And John Kerry will not sign any new trade agreements until the review is complete and its recommendations put in place. He believes all new trade agreements must have strong labor and environmental standards.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2003_0922b.html


Remarks by Senator John Kerry at the Detroit Economic Club
September 22, 2003

Two months after he took office, President Bush was in Kalamazoo. There he said – quote – “if our trading partners trade unfairly, they’ll hear from us.” But for nearly a thousand days, all they’ve heard is the sound of silence, the quiet of a wink and a nod. Instead of raising his voice, George Bush has been sitting on his hands.

You heard it here again last week. Secretary Evans complained about China’s promises to stop their trading abuses. And over and over again, he said, “We’re still waiting.” Well how long do we have to wait? How many jobs do we have to lose until this Administration stops waiting? How much of our manufacturing base do we have to see whittled away before this Administration uses the laws and tools that are sitting there available? We need to stop waiting and start acting.

But just this summer, this Administration said they opposed efforts to increase the funds for enforcing China’s trade agreements. They said the money just was “unnecessary.” Sounds like the Cabinet members need to come out here for some more town meetings.

As President, I’ll take on the countries that are manipulating their currency to undermine American exports. These countries are supposed to be playing by the same rules as we do and they’ll feel the full force of our trade laws if they don’t. I will open markets in key export areas for manufacturing – like Japan and China. I will make sure that if we have to lower our tariffs, our competitors have to do the same. We don’t need idle talk – we need action – and we need it now.

I’ll order an immediate 120 day review of all existing trade agreements to ensure our trading partners are living up to their labor and environmental obligations – to make sure these agreements are enforceable and to put us on a level playing field. And I will not sign any new trade agreements until the review is done and its recommendations are in place.

And I will appoint a U.S. Trade Representative who is an American patriot and who will put American jobs first.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/speeches/spc_2003_0922.html

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You have talked in the past of smoking pot when you returned from Vietnam. What do you think of the way the pot laws are prosecuted today?

We have never had a legitimate War on Drugs in the United States, ever, and we won't until we have treatment on demand for addiction and until you have full drug education in our schools. The mandatory-minimum-sentencing structure of our country is funneling people into jail who have no business being there.

And every year, the number of people arrested for marijuana offenses goes up.

I've met plenty of people in my lifetime who've used marijuana and who I would not qualify as serious addicts -- who use about the same amount as some people drink beer or wine or have a cocktail. I don't get too excited by any of that.

Would you favor decriminalization?

No, not quite. What we did in the prosecutor's office was have a sort of unspoken approach to marijuana that was almost effectively decriminalization. We just didn't bother with small-time use. It doesn't rise to the level of nuisance, even. And what we were after was people dealing with heroin and destroying lives, and people who were killing people. That's where you need to focus.
http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/clips/news_2003_1202a.html

During the Manchester forum, broadcast live on C-SPAN, GSMM member Linda Macia, who suffers from several debilitating illnesses for which conventional medications have not provided relief, thanked Kerry for his July 2 statement of support, provoking audience applause. She then asked Kerry about the Drug Enforcement Administration's raids on patients using medical marijuana under California law.


JOHN KERRY ON MEDICAL MARIJUANA
Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) has publicly stated he would stop the Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) raids on seriously ill medical marijuana patients as president. Kerry has previously said he favors federal legislation to allow people with cancer, AIDS, and other serious illnesses to have medical marijuana, with their doctors' approval. This un-retouched photo of Kerry shows him taking a symbolic toke while listening to "Puff the magic dragon. "

Kerry recently co-authored a letter asking the Drug Enforcement Administration to approve a proposal from the University of Massachusetts Amherst to manufacture marijuana for FDA-approved medical marijuana research. In the October 20 letter to DEA Administrator Karen Tandy, Kerry criticized the National Institute on Drug Abuse's "unjustified monopoly on the production of marijuana for legitimate medical research." The letter also notes, "Federal law makes clear that the ... bulk manufacture of Schedule I and II substances must be provided `under adequately competitive conditions.' ... The current lack of such competition may well result in the production of lower-quality research-grade marijuana, which in turn jeopardizes important research."

During a Kerry town hall meeting in Henniker on September 20, Granite Staters for Medical Marijuana (GSMM) asked Kerry, "Would you stop the raids, as president?" Kerry responded by saying simply, "Yes."
http://www.americanmarijuana.org/kerry.html
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When I researched the genetically manipulated organisms I realized that you must be a Kuch fan. Nothing in the Senate on this however.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:49 PM
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6. Thanks! That's exactly the kind of info I'm looking for
Hey, 3/5 is a pretty decent batting average.

I do like Kooch's stance on GMOs, and I was hoping the other candidates might have something similar, or at least something that addresses the topic. But if I can vote for someone who's strong on more than half of these issues, I'm happy.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:36 PM
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12. Brilliant homework!
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belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:58 AM
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14. Yes, thank you for that.
I'm really starting to warm to Kerry, I must say.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 09:57 PM
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7. Edwards on taxes:
http://www.johnedwards2004.com/budget-and-taxes.asp

Edwards will make the tax rate for the unearned income of the wealthiest 1 percent equal to the top income tax rate on earned income for middle-class families consisting of teachers, nurses, and secretaries. Edwards will set the top rate on capital gains at 25 percent for people earning over about $400,000, less than the top 1 percent of Americans.

Edwards will also repeal the Bush tax cuts that benefit only the top 2 percent of Americans, including the new top two tax rates on income, and the new rates on income from dividends and capital gains for the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. Only those earning about $240,000 or more are in the top two income tax brackets. In addition, Edwards will retain the tax on very large estates.


The most important part of this is raising the capital gains rate for the top bracket. When we give the rich a tax break on capital gains, they will spend their money on property and capital, enriching themselves, instead of putting it into hiring more employees and generating business income. It's preventing a lot of Bush's tax cuts from "trickling down" and contributing to our jobless recovery. The rich get richer and the working people get screwed.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:08 PM
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8. This is Edward's strongest position statement...
...among the questions I'm asking. I agree with you, he's solid on this matter, and lays out a direct policy for changing the UI rates. I'd like to see anything he has to say about adjusting the EI brackets as well, or adding new ones.

Also, anything you can dig up relating to his positions on the other 4 topics is welcome.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:25 PM
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10. When candidates want to roll back the Bush tax cuts...
...I assume that means an increase in the EI brackets back to the Clinton levels.

I'm not sure about creating new brackets though.
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DjTj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-21-04 10:24 PM
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9. Edwards and trade with China:
When PNTR was being considered in the Senate, Edwards voted for several amendments that failed (Kerry voted against them):

They both voted for PNTR:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00251
...but they disagreed on this amendment: "To require that the Congressional-Executive Commission monitor the cooperation of the People's Republic of China with respect to POW/MIA issues, improvement in the areas of forced abortions, slave labor, and organ harvesting, and for other purposes." (Edwards Yea, Kerry Nay)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00249
...also on this amendment: "To require the Secretary of Commerce to consult with leaders of American businesses to encourage them to adopt a code of conduct for doing business in the People's Republic of China." (Edwards Yea, Kerry Nay)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00244
...and this amendment: "To improve the certainty of the implementation of import relief in cases of affirmative determinations by the International Trade Commission with respect to market disruption to domestic producers of like or directly competitive products." (Edwards Yea, Kerry Nay)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00240
...and this one: "To require the President certify to Congress that the People's Republic of China is in compliance with certain Memoranda of Understanding regarding prohibition on import and export of prison labor products and for other purposes." (Edwards Yea, Kerry Nay)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00238
...then there's this one: "To require the United States to support the transfer of United States clean energy technology as part of assistance programs with respect to China's energy sector, and for other purposes." (Edwards Yea, Kerry Nay)
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=106&session=2&vote=00235


His plan for trying to modify the China trade deal is to hold the textiles quota in place until China stops its unfair trade policies:

http://www.johnedwards2004.com/page.asp?id=597
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bornskeptic Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-22-04 12:55 AM
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13. As far as 1, 2, and 5
you might want to look at the League of Conservation Voters candidate profiles. The complete profiles provide an in depth look at the environmental records and positions of each candidate. There are also concise summaries for each. The summaries can be reached from

http://www.lcv.org/Campaigns/Campaigns.cfm?ID=1943&c=4

There is also a link near the top of the page for the pdf file containing the complete profiles. While the LCV endorsed Kerry, they speak favorably of Edwards and Kucinich as well. While I like both Edwards and Kucinich very much, I'm a Kerry person, so I'll quote from his summary:

With a history of engagement that extends back to the first Earth Day in 1970,Senator Kerry is one of America 's premier environmental leaders. His voting record has earned him the highest lifetime LCV ranking of all the presidential candidates, and he has taken a leadership role in promoting higher fuel efficiency standards for cars and trucks, combating attempts to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, and in overturning efforts to weaken the Clean Air Act. On a range of domestic issues -from clean air to clean water to public lands -Kerry has repeatedly staked out pro-environment positions. His record on international issues is equally distinguished: he sponsored legislation to incorporate environmental protections into trade negotiations and has participated in international climate change negotiations beginning at the 1992 Earth Summit and extending through Kyoto. In his run for the presidency, Kerry has made the environment a central issue, devoting several significant forums to his plans for environmental action if elected. Kerry participated in LCV 's June 2003 presidential environmental debate.


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