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Sat Dec-01-07 03:07 PM
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There is one candidate that I can't stand - one candidate that I think is total slime. |
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Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:07 PM by pirhana
And there is another candidate that I dislike quite a bit.
I could make quite an issue about 'the slimeball', post alot of threads because this person has a record that absolutely disgusts me.
But I don't. That candidate has alot of supporters here. And I respect that. I talk about the slimeball with family and friends, but keep my mouth shut about it here at DU.
It's really not hard to do.
So WHY are there a select few DUers that constantly start horrible threads about candidates they don't like? Does it fill some void in your life? Do you get joy when you piss off alot of people? Do you suffer from low self-esteem?
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:09 PM
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1. Much better to start threads |
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telling everyone what you LIKE about your candidate or the candidates you are considering supporting.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:11 PM
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Yet it is the same few that always want to stir things up in a negative way.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:12 PM
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5. Yeah, and then people just waltz in and trash them anyway... |
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Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:13 PM by 1corona4u
so what's the fucking point.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:17 PM
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8. That's what the ALERT button is for |
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if they don't follow DU rules, and if they do, put them on IGNORE.
Isn't it better to start a thread, get some bashers, but convert one person to your cause?
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:23 PM
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15. Oh,, they are careful not to break the rules... |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:27 PM
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I know how annoying it can be to open a thread and see a certain poster's name. You groan and say, "Not HIM again!" Ignore has become my friend in such cases.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:39 PM
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34. Heck, they attack the people who come from far and wide to defend... |
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they just don't stop....ever.
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Sat Dec-01-07 08:08 PM
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51. You're kidding, right? |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:11 PM
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2. Careful, My Friend n/t |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:12 PM
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4. I'm not saying a word who my slimeball is. |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:31 PM
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25. VERY INTERESTING! Don't call a candidate you oppose any names, |
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but feel free to call another poster a slimeball.
That's funny.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:41 PM
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37. I wasn't calling a poster a slimeball. Re-read the conversation. |
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And I still haven't gotten my question answered.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:12 PM
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6. So you think it best that no one post the reasons that they fell someone |
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is unfit for the highest office in the land? You think it off-limits to post the (at the least) dubious positions and antics of someone just so that this can be the forum of 'feel good' politics?
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:16 PM
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7. I think you're misunderstanding... |
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Edited on Sat Dec-01-07 03:25 PM by 1corona4u
There are people on here who post the same fucking shit, over, and over, and over, and they do so, not to make people aware, but to make themselves the star for the day. This whole relentless bashing shit is ridiculous. It's just flame bait, nothing more. Some of them go off the board and brag about coming here and pissing people off. That's just ignorant, and immature.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:18 PM
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9. Not when it is backed up with facts. |
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But alot of what I read is trash talk.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:18 PM
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I have personally been threatened NOT to state my opinion, from another candidates supporter, as it would make ME and my candidate look bad, and force them to attack MY candidate. How right is that?! It's all BULLSHIT if you ask me.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:19 PM
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11. there is a difference between serious discussion |
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and name calling. I think that the latter was what the OP was referring to. Positions taken by candidates can be argued--calling any candidate a name stops discussion.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:20 PM
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13. and so is taking things out of context. Or posting the same thing over and over |
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everyday.
It's like RW World around here some days.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:23 PM
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17. those things, too, bar serious discussion |
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I have seen some of the threads you are alluding to, and I don't even open them up.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:20 PM
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12. So you think its a good thing Repubs don't criticize Bush then? |
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You want us to be just like them?
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:23 PM
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16. That is not what I am saying at all. |
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You can start a thread saying a fact, or you can start a thread calling a candidate a slimeball.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:26 PM
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20. One thread opens discussion;the other closes it down |
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This is to be a DISCUSSION board. If my candidate loses the primaries, and the candidate called Slimeball by some wins, what will I know about Candidate Slimeball from name calling threads? There must be a serious discussion of the issues. You are free to disagree-and I have strong disagreements with several candidates on different issues--but name calling doesn't help.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:30 PM
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23. and neither does sperading half-truths, false information, |
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but it's done everyday here.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:26 PM
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19. Please stick to the topic, if at all possible. Thanks. |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:37 PM
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30. I'm sorry but when I see repub like behavior and expectations |
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I get very upset.
Republican's Eleventh Commandment: "Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican."
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:21 PM
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14. But now I wanna know who it is. |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:24 PM
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18. No, trust me you don't.... |
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just keep your head down, and stay below the radar.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:27 PM
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I think most of us have one candidate we really don't like.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:31 PM
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many who will NOT get my vote. Ever.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:38 PM
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But Ill say them. Kucinich and Edwards.
Funny, the two most popular on DU are my two least favorite.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:55 PM
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:32 PM
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26. I nominate this for the worst post I have read in a long time |
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only because it is you of all people who is preaching to the choir. You're one of the last people on this forum who should be talking about DUers who constantly start shit about candidates they don't like. What a joke!
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:35 PM
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28. And yet, people are coming here to read it...go figue...thanks for your input.. |
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I watched as quite a lot of people bashed hillary last night too....was that right in your book? We are not the ones that EVER start the battles, we have been the ones to constantly have to be on the defense. BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:38 PM
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31. That was payback for a thread she started where she criticized all of the candidates. |
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I responded saying that was the worst thread I ever read.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:41 PM
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36. Payback sucks doesn't it, bud |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:33 PM
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27. No one has answered my question yet. |
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I'm really curious why certain people feel like that have to twist truths and post the same thing over and over again.
I don't understand - because I'm not made that way.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:37 PM
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29. They're not going to answer... |
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they have no answer...Joe is the underdog, and some people attack the underdog. Personally, I will always defend the underdog. Last night it was Hillary. Today, it's someone else.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:52 PM
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39. I'll attempt to answer |
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although I don't think I am one of those posters.
I have notices a tendency during the primary for some people to stick up for candidates no matter what. It's almost like a religious fever. People tend to get so excited about a candidate that they fail to step back and admit no one is perfect (this goes for all the candidates). For example if a candidate slighted a whole group of people it is much easier for the people that support the candidate to make excuses than to see the other sides pain or displeasure. The other side wont give up on something they see as a fundamental issue and then neither side progresses to an understanding. It becomes a smaller version of "your either with us or against us." Its easier to attack a poster or a candidate than to tackle the issues at times.
JMHO
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Sat Dec-01-07 04:32 PM
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50. That's a great explanation, but why do some people post the same thing over and over again? |
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Just change a few words in the OP?
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:55 PM
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42. Answer is that it's easier to attack than promote. |
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It's an intellectually lazy way to promote your candidate. It's easier to criticize than defend.
Most folks view politics in the same way they root for their favorite sport team. Instead of talking about why their team is the best, most sport fanatics will talk smack about the team they dislike. They'll point out and blow up any small flaw in their opponent. They usually are the same ones that take any attack on their preferred candidate personally. Heck, I sometimes fall into that trap when someone launches a smear attack in a thread I started about Richardson.
They also seem to think that what they post on our board is going to have some significant influence on this political campaign. The polls show that to be false.
Fortunately these types of posters tend to be in the minority. Unfortunately they are some of the most prolific posters on the board.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:58 PM
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43. Boy, that's the truth. |
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:38 PM
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32. Sad that you think any of the candidates this year are total slime |
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It's one thing to have things bother you about a candidate, but to think they're total slime? There's not one of them I wouldn't vote for.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:40 PM
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35. I would vote for this person. Any dem is better than any repug. But |
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that's not the point of my thread.
I am trying to get a question answered.
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Sat Dec-01-07 04:22 PM
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47. You won't get any answers from the subjects of your OP |
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I've noticed the worst of them will start a thread, and when it starts to heat up, start another thread on the same subject with slightly different wording. I saw at least four different posters doing this yesterday. I alerted on all their dupes. None were locked
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:42 PM
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38. Too bad others don't share in your |
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generosity. I mean that sincerely. I simply can not vote for a couple of these candidates, and for that, I will not apologize, or reconsider.
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Sat Dec-01-07 04:13 PM
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46. There are misguided Democrats |
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with some horrible policies that really are more for the upper 10%, because they have the money, and in the spirit of the OP, I'll leave it at that.
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Sat Dec-01-07 03:53 PM
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40. So WHY are there a select few DUers that constantly start horrible threads about candidates they don |
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Because they choose not to practice the restraint that the majority of DUers do.
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:27 PM
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55. Last primary we needed alot of this... |
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I see you took some misguided heat but I get what you are saying. You can post dissent and opinions but there is a HUGE difference between that and saying your candidate X SUCKS! Ha HA, let me add some laughing smilies, give me a link, on and on.
By the way I really thing Biden is a loquacious jerk :rofl: :rofl: and can you provide me a link to something Joe has accomplished! (Just kidding - if Joe doesn't win the nomination, the nominee needs to find him a prominent position is his or her cabinet.
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Sat Dec-01-07 04:13 PM
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45. I wouldn't call ANY of the candidates a slimeball. That is pretty harsh. nt |
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Sat Dec-01-07 04:29 PM
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49. I was trying to make a point. And ask a question that now one seems able to answer. |
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Sat Dec-01-07 08:25 PM
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52. Because like most of Joe Biden's supporters, you have class. |
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And it takes class to know class. :applause:
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Sat Dec-01-07 08:34 PM
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54. I don't understand it either |
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There's one thing when someone posts their opinions on a candidate, why they chose who or why not. But the constant twisting of things gets quite annoying.
I've learned to just ignore certain people (though I don't put them on actual ignore).
What I really don't get is when there's a positive thread for supporters, people have to post their negative crap in it.
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Sun Dec-02-07 01:28 PM
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56. And I know who you think the slime is..John Edwards |
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Not a big shock considering your candidate has made a point to continually attack him.
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