Not feeling the Oprah love

[emilyg]

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/07/not-feeling-the-oprah-love/#more-3217

[ronnykmarshall]

1. Oh dear

:hide:

[Colobo]

2. What? The opposing camps don't like the Oprah-Obama connection?

Well, cry me a river and Gobama.

[mtnsnake]

20. What "camps"? There was only 1 camp that "expressed dissatisfaction" w/Oprah going there

Read the article.

[cuke]

30. Obama supporters can't help their prejudices and stereotypes

It's just assumed that if something bad is done, Clinton is also involved. Even Katz, who some consider more reasonable than most, is vulnerable to it, as his post shows.

[mtnsnake]

47. No kidding

You hit the nail on the head again, cuke

[avrdream]

41. Not "camps" - camp.

"The coming Oprah phenomenon on behalf of Senator Barack Obama is already having a ripple effect on rival campaigns.
Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is sending Bill Clinton here to South Carolina on Saturday, the day before Oprah Winfrey arrives. The former president has spoken here often on behalf of his wife and has proved enormously popular with South Carolina voters.
And on a conference call today, supporters of former Senator John Edwards expressed dissatisfaction with Ms. Winfrey for coming here but not addressing issues like education, health care or poor conditions facing senior citizens."

I lived in South Carolina for 16 years and, even then, it was nice getting to see the candidates and, in this case, seeing celebrities would be nice. Nobody ever came to Texas from the Dem side.

[emilyg]

46. Katz - read it.

[K Gardner]

3. I'm so confused...

This celebrity chyte, constant negative attacks, battling endorsements, rivaling bloggers, millions upon millions of dollars spent.. I can't keep up with who said what to who about whose ad and whose endorser is bigger and who gets the most coverage. It's dizzying. I'm just kinda glad I have a nice, quiet candidate that I don't have to spin in circles like a whirling dervish to keep up with. Bah...O8)

[1corona4u]

13. Thank you..

me too.

[Dawgs]

21. He wouldn't be "nice and quiet" if he had more than 5% support.

That's not a knock on Biden. It's just the truth.

[Mojorabbit]

4. I am not an obama supporter

but what I read looks like sour grapes.

[jenmito]

5. Well, THAT'S a shocker...

:sarcasm: People are NOT going to vote for "Barack Obama's friends" as your article suggests. They're going to vote for Obama. People may be drawn to see Obama because of Oprah but it's going to be Obama that will have to close the deal. And going by his appearance in Harlem where he changed "more than a few minds" in his favor, I'm sure he'll get the same reaction in S.C.

[NYCGirl]

6. I don't remember people getting their panties in a bunch when Springsteen campaigned

for Kerry.

[mitchtv]

7. Springsteen is talented

Oprah is trite

[jenmito]

8. That makes no sense at all. It's because the other campaigns know

Oprah has a lot of influence, unlike people who are just entertainers.

[BeyondGeography]

11. What would be worse, Oprah's band or Springsteen's talk show?

:crazy:

[geek tragedy]

10. Yeah, she became the richest and most powerful

African-American in history with no talent at all.

[cuke]

33. Pretty much

She is an awesome business person. She really knows her stuff and she is one tough cookie. No one gets over on Oprah.

However, she has no artistic talent of any kind. She's not a comedian. She has worked as an actress, but have you seen her work? She has no acting talent. She doesn't sing. She is not a particularly good interviewer.

When it comes to entertainment, she has no talent. Her talents have to do with her business skills. And she is good at spotting talent and getting them to appear on her show.

[cbmanchester]

15. Spotlight the celebrities

like we do with everything else, and ignore the more insidious corporate heads of Halliburton, Exxon, and Walmart which campaign behind the scenes.

Oprah? Nice distraction. OH! Look, there goes Paris Hilton. What's her dog wearing? I heard he was in rehab for leg humping...

BAAAARRRRRRFFFFF!!!

[NYCGirl]

16. Springsteen will be pleased to know that he's responsible for Halliburton, Exxon

and Walmart. Is that why he's called "The Boss"?


:evilgrin:

[MadBadger]

24. confusion, who should be pleased to know that they are responsible for all that?

[NYCGirl]

25. Did I really need to use a sarcasm smilie?

:shrug:

[MadBadger]

27. Sorry I couldnt catch it...

Huuuge Springsteen fan, and I thought somebody was attacking him. I only paid attention to what was said and I was getting ready to attack back. My apologies.

[Progress And Change]

49. springsteen is a progressive. oprah gave bush free airtime in 2000...

[geek tragedy]

9. What a bunch of crybabies. n/t

[frogmarch]

12. I'm just glad Oprah is

campaigning for a Democrat and not a republican.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. Tell me about it.

I would have been pissed had she campaigned for a repuke.

[mitchtv]

17. for a change

unike the Gropenator show

[ronnykmarshall]

19. Ain't that the truth

she all but blew him on the air during the recall.

[jenmito]

22. Oprah never campaigned for ANYONE before.

Sour grapes?

[frogmarch]

28. You talkin' to me?

What was there about my post that implied sour grapes on my part?

I don't care who Oprah campaigns for, as long as it's a Dem.

Got a chip on the shoulder by any chance?

[jenmito]

31. Yes...

I'm talkin' to you. And no, I don't have a chip on my shoulder. I simply read the replies after your post and you did nothing to "clarify" what you meant. Sorry if I inferred something that you didn't imply. :)

[cuke]

34. That sounds insane

You're judging someone's post by how others respond to it. That's irrational, and the fact that s/he didn't "clarify" anything might mean nothing more than s/he has gone off to take a piss or eat dinner

[Lucinda]

18. Edwards comment about using her money in SC instead of another country will

strike a nerve. It's her money and she should be able to use it as she sees fit, but JE's comments will resonate with a lot of people.

I'm still glad she's going on the road to support her choice. I actually like Oprah, though I don't agree with her candidate choice. Apathy is part of the problem in this country, and maybe a lot of the lookie-loo's going to see her will actually become involved in the process.

[Whisp]

43. I like your post.

something good and positive could come out of Oprah's involvement just by awakening some of the walking brain dead to important political issues.

but wait, certain camps Rely on an ignorant populace, so that's why the screetching and whimpering 'no fair' crap and running down Oprah personally, imo.

[Lucinda]

45. Thanks! Even if only one person

wakes up to what is going on around them as a result of these gatherings, I'll count it as a victory.

As for the intense Oprah bashing, i'm still amazed by it. And i've been seeing it for a long time now...Would I prefer she was stumping for my preferred candidates? You betcha. :)

I don't think any celebrity endorsement will change enough votes to matter, but they can help open eyes. And thats nothing but good in my book.

[zulchzulu]

23. I love the smell of childish envy in the morning...

Are those that endorse supposed to do policy now?

[mtnsnake]

26. Well at least nobody can say that it's the Clinton camp that's doing the complaining. nt

[jenmito]

29. Not this time. But Bill Clinton already blamed the MEDIA for "daring" to

tape and replay his statement about being against the Iraq War from the beginning.

[mtnsnake]

32. What's that got to do with the Edwards camp being upset about Oprah?

If you don't think the Edwards people have anything to gripe about, then just say so. I'm sure they have their reasons for expressing their dissatisfaction, as is explained in the article.

Stick to the topic, will ya

[cuke]

35. She's just upset she can't pin this one on Clinton

You know how spoiled some children can be

[jenmito]

37. Wrong. I dislike Edwards even more than Hillary

and I apologized to the other poster.

[jenmito]

36. You're right...

It has nothing to do with the Edwards' camp being upset about Oprah and I think they ARE griping unjustifiably. Sorry for going off-topic. :)

[mtnsnake]

38. thanks

and no apology necessary. Im sure I can be caught going off topic sometime, too. :)

[jenmito]

39. Thank YOU

for understanding. :hi:

[maximusveritas]

40. Edwards campaign being hypocrites as usual

Weren't they recently trumpeting the endorsements of Bonnie Raitt other entertainers? If they had Oprah's endorsement, they'd be doing the same.
Hillary is smart enough to know that she'd look like a hypocrite and is staying away from this.

[jenmito]

42. I agree.

Yup, they sure were. Edwards has said/done more hypocritical things than this.

[Catchawave]

44. Oprah's a wonderful humanitarian

Methinks, Edwards would have her mucking out the ghetto's rather than dancing in front of thousands ? Probably why she's supporting Obama ? It's easy work :D

[cuke]

48. Edwards is getting petty lately

[Progress And Change]

50. will oprah endorse the republican candidate in the general if obama loses?

is she even a democrat?