Holbrooke's Secret Plan

[sniffa]

I apologize for the extreme length of this post, but the determination of various people to mislead the public about their pre-war stances on Iraq seems to me to require Greenwald-esque post lengths to try to document. At any rate, it would be a lot easier for me to forgive the Democratic Party politicians and prominent operatives who helped sell the country on George W. Bush's disastrous war in Iraq if they would at least 'fess up and admit that they supported a war that they very clearly did succeed. Here, for example, is former UN Ambassador and top Hillary Clinton advisor telling an audience in New Hampshire that Clinton voted for the war as a way of preventing the war:

snip - it is really long

On some level, of course, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe when Hillary Clinton voted for the war, she was actually trying to stop it. Maybe she then didn't clarify during October that she thought invading would be a bad idea. SImilarly, during November she didn't clarify her view. Or during December. Or January. Or February. Or March. Maybe she kept her opposition to the invasion itself under wraps during the 2003 intra-party jihad against Howard Dean. Maybe she only felt comfortable revealing her secret plan to prevent war until after the war had become unpopular. Similarly, maybe Bill Clinton really did oppose the war, and only pretended to support it -- by, for example, urging blind faith in Tony Blair's decision-making just days before the invasion was launched -- as part of a clever plot to preserve the peace.

Similarly, maybe Holbrooke was relaying all these secret messages to Hillary and just lying to the public on national television. And Clinton's probably associated herself with other war supporters like Madeleine Albright, James Rubin, Michael O'Hanlon, Ken Pollack, etc. over the years as part of her clever ruse. Or maybe they were all pretending, too!

http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/12/holbrookes_secret_plan.php

really nice take donw of Holbrooke's bad memory. :thumbsup:

[gateley]

1. This is baffling:

".....Powell had just been up there, and Powell was trying to get the 15 votes at the Security Council for Security Council Resolution <1441>, which ultimately passed. And I said, 'What's going on?' And Kofi said, 'He's told us that if we get a unanimous vote, we can avoid war."

How would voting FOR the IWR AVOID a war? Does that make sense? Do you need to vote on ANYTHING to avoid a war?

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2. no it makes no sense

the whole contrast of quotes, is sickening yet, not surprising.