rucky
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Wed Feb-25-04 12:39 PM
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Let's discuss nuance - in a nuanced sort of way.
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Wed Feb-25-04 12:42 PM
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1. Articles of Liberalism |
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There are no absolutes
One size does NOT fit all
Competing ideas have equal weight
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Wed Feb-25-04 12:50 PM
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"there are no absolutes" is an absolute itself, thus contradictory.
"Competing ideas have equal weight." But they do not necessarily have equal worth.
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:01 PM
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4. there are no absolutes |
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and all generalizations are bad!
):-)
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:35 PM
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9. "contradictory" is judgemental- not allowed nt |
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:52 PM
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Wed Feb-25-04 03:50 PM
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12. ideas have no mass, therefore |
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:19 PM
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6. Whose articles are those? |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 01:21 PM by asthmaticeog
There are, in fact, absolutes. People, without exception, die. Pretty important absolute to keep in mind, especially in a time when our government has just used its military might to reduce two sovereign nations to spent match-heads.
I'm with you on the second one.
Competing ideas do not have equal weight. That's why we have the rules of argument (logic) and epistemology - to determine which of any given number competing ideas has the highest truth-value. Let's say competing ideas DO have equal weight - then the utterly rancid, brutal reppression of dissent in some Asian nations is valid, because "it's their culture and we should respect that." Excrement. Also, the assertion that competing ideas have equal weight sounds suspiciously like an absolute to me - the bad kind, as it stifles inquiry and discussion, and ignores nuance.
Those sound more like articles of academic post-structuralism than of liberalism. And while deconstruction can be a useful analytical tool, taking its tenets as gospel is anti-rational. It's also one-size-fits-all thinking, which contradicts your second assertion.
Edit: spelling
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Wed Feb-25-04 12:47 PM
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2. Nuance my pointy tailed ass! |
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I see a lot of people here continue to eat breakfast at Kerry's Internationalist House of Waffles. :eyes:
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:25 PM
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... let me just say that there are those who might look down their nose at you, too.
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:07 PM
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5. People are terrified of thinking and qualification, hence religion |
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People would rather be torn limb from limb than admit that they're ignorant, and they spend their whole lives shoring up idiotic assumptions just to keep the evil of uncertainty at bay.
To grant any virtue to the enemy is tantamount to treason, and to attribute any failing to allies is heresy.
Couple this with the hypocritical demand to be treated better than others, and much nastiness can be explained.
The infamous "Bubble Lady", the street poetess Julia Vinograd of Berkeley, should best be remembered for pointing out that we're all oppressed minorities.
And of course, these fatuous, absolute pronouncements of mine are absolutely true and without the slightest exception.
Dammit.
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Wed Feb-25-04 01:24 PM
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... but in this life, all we have are perceptions. Politics is all about these perceptions, and a little nuanced language helps to contain them.
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Wed Feb-25-04 02:31 PM
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11. It's not taking a position. nt |
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Wed Feb-25-04 04:02 PM
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13. legin disolves into a fit of semi-hysterical giggling n/t |
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Edited on Wed Feb-25-04 04:03 PM by legin
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