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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:09 AM
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If I violated the DU rules with my Obama threads, I publicly apologize for that.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:10 AM by Katzenkavalier
But I won't apologize for trying to answer the constant "What are Obama's plans apart of Hope?" questions that a bunch of "concerned" supporters of other candidates were throwing out.

Again, if I somehow violated the rules, I apologize. DU is my home and I wouldn't do anything to harm it.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:10 AM
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1. This is primary season.....
and this is not copyrighted material.....

The author wants it out there.

So I believe that you are fine.

Especially in light, I would think, of the asinine questions about "duh...what's hope..doh!" :crazy:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 AM
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6. So I'm not crazy...
There've been at least four or five "hope and change?" threads. Two words for them all... sour grapes.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:17 AM
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27. Oh...A barrage in the 5 days since Iowa.....
But it was to be expected.

Folks will "get it" when its time. It's not like Brain Surgery.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:24 AM
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36. You can't believe how happy I am that it is not brain surgery
The posts would be ever so boring.

:rofl:
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:11 AM
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2. It was a welcomed change from the Hillary crying threads... believe me.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:11 AM
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3. You have nothing to apologize for
:)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:44 AM
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45. Speak for yourself.
He has one bad case of NILS (Name In Lights Syndrome).
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 AM
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4. Biggest BS apology I have ever seen
He/she spams the entire board with 17 threads and then when he/she is done quickly issues a pro forma faux apology.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 AM
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11. Clearly, judging by those here, it wasn't seen as spam.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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You must have seen many egregious violations of the rules since, um,
January 4th, and many subsequent pro forma apologies.

It's always good to hear "concern" from elder statesmen such as yourself.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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LOLOLOLOL
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 AM
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22. never mind. It is useless talking to Obama fanatics
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:34 AM by jackson_dem
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:23 AM
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35. It's very rare you have people willing to lurk that long.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:36 AM by Occam Bandage
It's not rare at all to have people claiming they've been lurking that long.

Edit: Whoops, almost gave yourself away, didn't you?
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:32 AM
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41. Inspired by who?
Clearly not Obama.
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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21. That's three.
Buh-bye.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:45 AM
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46. Hasta La Vista, baby.
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ClericJohnPreston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 AM
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5. Tell me
Do you see any diffference between a plan and the reality of the execution of a policy?

While you cogitate on that one, look at what Obama says he is going to do, and tell me if you find that it matches his established record in the State and Senate.

Have you ever heard a candidate make a promise he didn't keep?

Do you not see your "faith" is totally built on "hope" and "change", not REALITY.

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 AM
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7. You did violate the rules.
I understand your frustration, but it is against the rules to do what you did.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 AM
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12. I apologize.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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15. No hard feelings on this end.
:hi:
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 AM
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23. LMAO..just wait til primary night
When you do it all over again..LOL..you're slick I tell ya.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:35 AM
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42. Which primary night? I've got time... I'll vouch for if it happens or not.
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:04 AM
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53. Obama supporters should now be as smart as Obama
and just relax and let the next few days play out. Let the supporters of the other candidates vent their frustration. If I were you rather than be so defensive I would be thinking of what I was going to do to sooth some very disappointed people to join my team. I just wish it was the problem Edwards was facing. But I appreciate your apology.
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 AM
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8. You can lead a horse to water
but you can't make her cry :)
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 AM
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9. Did you ever answer the one about hope?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 AM
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14. I thought bringing fights over from another thread was also against the rules... I forget.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:18 AM
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28. No answers, huh?
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:22 AM
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32. I won't bring fights from other boards... sorry...
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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19. Yes, and at this point, if you took your gas mask off
you would even smell it!

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 AM
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24. That might get me arrested.
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:17 AM by The_Casual_Observer
But I'd give it a try!

At my age there's always hope!
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:23 AM
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34. There ya go.....
Now you've got it!

Better have it than be hope less! LOL!

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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:17 AM
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25. Lol...
Wow, almost 900 posts and that's the first time I said that... I hope that's a record. Lol... wow I did it again.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:24 AM
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37. Kewl!
:thumbsup:

Hope will do that do ya! :hi:
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:31 AM
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39. It's old hat, those kind of insults have been going on for years
That's why I keep 'em there!:D
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:36 AM
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43. Ok now I'm officially lost...
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:48 AM
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48. But you're ok, because you still have hope!
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:52 AM
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50. You must have hope until the moment you die, to do otherwise is to die on the inside.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:54 AM
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52. I reject hope and all it's agents.
So there.
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:08 AM
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54. Then your life will be empty and joyless..
So there. ;)
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 AM
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10. Good for you.
It's about time.
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 AM
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13. I don't think you did...
and you're right. People have been asking. I for one appreciate your efforts.
I can't sleep so I'm gonna read some more of his stuff. ;-)
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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16. Screw the apology. It's been a barrage of "Where's the Beef?" in here
Now they got it answers.

Of course, none of them read it. They'll just keep asking the same questions.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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17. I asked you what Obama had that made you leave the Republican Party
for him since all the other candidates also have attracted former Republicans, and I was promised a reply after you got done issuing "specifics".

I'm ready to turn in for the night, but before I do take a couple of minutes and just specifically tell me what Obama represents so much that you changed affiliation, why not to one of the other candidates?
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 AM
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29. I'll gladly answer
Very quickly, I considered myself Republican since I was a kid back in Puerto Rico, where the Republican Party is seen as the friend of those who want Puerto Rican statehood, as I have always done. When I moved here to the states back in '01, I was 17 and eager to join the party I had heard so many good things about, apart that I was always told the GOP was the party of "true Americans" while the Democratic Party was the party of "people who live on Welfare and minorities".

To make the story short, I voted for Jeb in '02, campaigned and voted for Bush in '04, even though I quickly realized that party wasn't for me. I still resisted my own desire to leave because I didn't want to be labeled "less American" or be a traitor to my pro-Statehood ideals. In 06, however, I left the Republican Party and changed to Democrat, and I have been once since.

How Obama got my support? Tell you tomorrow.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:22 AM
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33. Good night Katzenvalier, you are so full of specifics about Obama
that you have harmed your candidate here tonight...
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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18. You violated no rules, Katz.
A handful of people think it's cute to continually demand that others do the homework, then regurgitate for them the "substantive" summary of information they want (which will never be "specific" enough to satisfy them).

People who don't like particular threads are free to hide them with a click.

People who don't like particular posters are free to partially or completely ignore them with a couple of clicks.

Instead of bitching at you, they should be taking some responsibility for themselves.

WE appreciate you, Katz! :pals:

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 AM
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20. Thank you for your work.
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lvx35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:17 AM
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26. Smaller Chunks are nice.
You just posted too much there for me to get through, though I found some pretty interesting little tidbits when I tried.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 AM
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30. Obama: The John Kerry of 2008 . I have my suspicions about
the sudden popularity of this fresh, young face -- good chance that this is being manipulated and inflated. It is an old strategy to elevate the man you know you can beat and brainwash the sheep into rejecting the one they can't beat. In spite of the uninterrupted 7 year disaster since the Bush seizure of the Presidency, no one, least of all the party leadership and the base (the "But I Have to Have My Pony!" funsters) -- has learned a thing. They are refusing to win yet again.

The media, pink-tutus and Pony Whiners have decided that this placid, pleasant, untroubled man with the intensity of Bing Crosby is going to carry the ticket for the Democrats and miraculously defeat the determined, warlike Republicans.This light-weight is going to be eaten alive.

The best we Americans can hope for at this point is that the Republican who will be elected will not be as evil as Monkeyboy and Unka Dick. Perhaps he will simply be incompetent -- what a relief that will be."laurie"



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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:28 AM
Response to Reply #30
55. More BartCop?
People who read BartCop know who you mean by 'pony-whiners.'
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gdaerin Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:11 AM
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58. What? The support is not sudden, not for many of us!
This movement has been growing over the past year, maybe because he didn't get that much coverage you weren't aware of it, but I've been an Obama fan for over 6 months now.

Obviously, some people are choosing to just now look into the politicians and Obamas much deserved momentum he gained is causing a lot more people to be converted simply because more people are turning out.

He's still got the same message he always had, unlike Hillary.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:21 AM
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31. Maybe technically, but I'd rather see a pile of...
those kinds of threads than the usual crap around here lately. A dozen documented positive threads about a candidate in the middle of a hundred or so bullshit threads-- what's the problem?

Anyone thinks it's spamming, they don't have to read 'em.

(But, those are the people who probably should.)



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:47 AM
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47. So rules shouldn't apply to Obamies any more than Bushies?
Change? Sure.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:27 AM
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38. I didn't see anything wrong with your threads.
:-)
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:32 AM
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40. Will Pitt is on his way to deliver punishment
:spank::hide::D
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:41 AM
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44. Again, I read the barackobama.com/issues
and your premeditated excuse for spamming DU with copied 'position papers' is not appreciated by those of us who have functioning brains .... it just re-enforces, to us, just how aggressive, single minded, and blindly faithful you all are to your candidate. Even if it means belittling anyone with a different opinion or the simplest of questions. Not at all what I expected from DU or Obama supporters.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:49 AM
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49. Cry us a fuckin river allready
What a tool
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Fearless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:53 AM
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51. LOL
:rofl: :rofl:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:31 AM
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56. I post from the candidates websites. They want us to do that.
I have also posted from Obama's website, as well as Edwards and Clinton. I like to compare their policies, but haven't had a chance to do that in the past couple of days -- no time.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:57 AM
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57. Ahh - it's the PRIMARY SEASON of a PRESIDENTIAL YEAR...it's gonna get a lot worse...
It's a free country - at least that's what we've been taught...

Everyone is free to speak their minds...
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