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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:23 AM
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Is Super Tuesday going to "seal up" the nomination? What
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 10:24 AM by devrc243
will it bring? Oh, the suspense. I don't know if I'm ready for "one" candidate yet. I have been open to all candidates and supported each one. Never could pin down support to just one,(my state primary is in May) 'cause this is about the Democratic party winning and not just a candidate. I have voted for over 20 years--always Democratic--and I have to say that this is the most nail-biting, hair-pulling, stomach-wrenching election I have ever seen and I have enjoyed having such a wide field of candidates. I think each brought something to the party and each one has helped it to get where it is today. They have been candid and relentless on the facts of this horrible administration, so my hat goes off to each one. With such a wide field of candidates it kept the media attention on the Democratic party which gave us alot of free press--questionable at times, yes--but overall pretty good.

However, as it narrows down to one, I know the attacks from the GOP will be relentless as they prowl for dirt to smear. I think our candidates are fully aware of this, but I know it won't make it any easier.

The stakes are high this year, as we know, and I just hope that we can come together and work for what we know to be right--even though there will be disagreement. I'm nervous about this election year for many reasons and I'm gonna need a ton of Rolaids!

So with that said, here's one to winning this year :toast:
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:25 AM
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1. yeah, but you know what?
If we stick together and go ABB it really doesn't matter. This is not the year for us to fracture the left of center vote!
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:26 AM
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2. I would like to get the opportunity to vote in a meaningful primary
However, my state's primary is not until 9 March, and as such we will not be a player in the nomination process. For selfish reasons, I'd like the campaigning to go on for just one more week after Super Tuesday.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:35 AM
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6. I know what you mean
mine's not till May--by that time it will probably be sealed. That's part of the reason I didn't focus on campaining for one candidate--even though I signed up for almost all of them:)
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drthais Donating Member (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:39 AM
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7. mine is also March 9
but I will go to the polls no matter what
...kind of a practice run for November

and I will make sure my voting-age kids go as well
they are all early 20-somethings

my husband and I used to constitute 2 voting Dems
now we are a family of 5 voting Dems
this is the way to the future

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MurikanDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:31 AM
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3. I don't think Super Tuesday will "seal up" the nomination, as in
result in the 2161(??) required delegates, but I think it will definitively will put him out of reach.

Yeah, the next stretch will get pretty hairy with the GOP attack machine and the dirt and the smears. I'll bet it will be as bad as what we've seen from the left.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:32 AM
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4. All the way to Boston
Every opportunity to get waffle boy out of there has to be taken. We are so fucked if he's the nominee :(
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:34 AM
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5. I think this needs to happen.
I'm not a huge fan of either Kerry or Edwards (and yes, I do admit to being from Massachusetts and having worked with a member of the Mass. delegation. Kerry the Presidential candidate still hasn't fully impressed me. Kerry the Senator will always have my vote though.) I think the time for debate is over and the time to start gearing up for the general election needs to begin. Bush just has too much money for either Kerry or Edwards to keep throwing away funds at each other and not at Bush.

Note: I was a Gephardt supporter.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:42 AM
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8. just curious
since I'm just learning about Kerry. What is your "objective" opinion of him? I know it will have no effect on my vote in the primary, since I don't vote till May, but I just want to prepared to know all I can so if he is the nominee, I know how to defend him against Bush and these conservatives here in the south.

Please tell me in your own words since you worked for the delegation. what are his strong and weak points...please not links;)
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:53 AM
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12. It's a good question
The biggest thing we talked about that would be a problem for Kerry is that he's got a reputation for flip-flopping on some issues. He's been sort of shrewd with his voting, often making the right political move even if it might not be 100% in line with what he says. Typically, it's for things where his vote didn't matter because it was passing or not passing one way or another (which while that IS a typical practice on the Hill, it does leave one vulnerable and leaves a bad taste in some peoples' mouths.) He can also be seen as a little stiff sometimes, but it seems like he's done a better job with that lately.

As far as good things go, he's been a fantastic Senator for us for many years. Despite perceived flip-flops, he's a very honorable man, incredibly smart, and he's very friendly personally. He once said one time in my presence that he doesn't trust a man that doesn't swear (and he does swear a lot.) He feels like someone who doesn't swear feels like they have something to prove (which I agree with completely). He's a liberal who has been willing, at times, to reach across the lines and support or oppose something that's not entirely within the party platform (which I view as a good thing, as it means he's a puppet to no one). He's a Democrat through and through though - you'll never mistake him for Lieberman or Zell Miller. This was one of my major reasons for supporting Gephardt, though, instead of Kerry, because I felt we needed a capital "D" Democrat as our candidate, and Gephardt seemed more willing to eschew the high road to present some bold new options for our country (like his health care proposal.) I obviously have no problems supporting Kerry though, and as it seems like he will be our candidate. I hope this helps. Let me know if you'd like to know more (but having not worked directly for him, I don't think I have a heck of a lot more to share).
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 07:55 PM
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13. thanks for responding and since you wrote
this I have since talked with a Vietnam vet here in my town while I was waiting for my car to be fixed this afternoon. He was talking about Iraq and how much it bothered him that this looked like a political war like Vietnam. I had already mentioned that I had moved to the current town from Texas and he asked if I like Bush. I said well...not really...easing into it. I gave my reasons since he was my governor for 4 years and I asked him since he was a vet had he heard of Kerry. I got the impression he didn't know much about Kerry or Edwards, but he went on to say he didn't like Kerry because of what he did after he got back from Vietnam...the Jane Fonda thing:shrug: and how he came out against the war. Now this man had just told me how he knew Vietnam was a political war, but he didn't like Kerry taking a stand against it:shrug: Okay.

We said a few other things and then my car was ready. I had my child so I had to leave. After I left I kept running this whole conversation through my head and what could I have said, how could I have said it and then I started to worry about Kerry being the nominee...blah, blah, blah.

I know this is gonna be a long 8 months--whoever the nominee is--but if it is Kerry, I hope he thinks long and hard about adding someone from the south on the ticket. This Vietnam stuff works for and against us, not to mention some other things. I am so open to learning as much as I can--without the bashing--so thanks and I'll keep in touch on this.

More later on this...:)
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:53 AM
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9. No, Super Tuesday can't be the
deciding day. Even if Kerry got every one of the available delegates on Super Tuesday it wouldn't be enough to guarantee the nomination.

I'm enjoying the fact that there is an actual contest this time out, honestly.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:13 AM
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10. Yeah, I
am too. Keeps things interesting:)
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:32 AM
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11. Let the GOP dip into their war chest 3 months early
whatever we're lacking in money, we can make up for in time.
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revcarol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 08:02 PM
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14. A lot of moving targets helps Dems.
Tremendous amount of interest in the Dem primary may translate into people actually VOTING this time, which helps Dems.

Don't let the media say it's a done deal even after Super Tuesday. Keep those moving targets in there.Confuse the opposition.

And wonder what zinger Sharpton will come up with next!!
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