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Wed Jan-09-08 01:50 AM
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Chris Matthews' next big play against the Clintons |
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Late evening political talk continuing on MSNBC as the Dem vote is counted to 93%. Keith and Matthews co-hosting. Tweety with his arms folded every time they come back from a break. He's hurt, subconsciously protecting himself from further damage by the evil Hillary, unless Keith is punching him in the gut during the breaks, which I would prefer. Phony just-lost-all-my-money-in-the-stock-market-but-I'm-fine smile pasted on his face is better than the look of someone who just lost a close family member he had when Al Gore was ahead of GW through the latter half of election night 2000. Utterly despondent back then, until GW came back and Matthews came to life. Tonight it's fake smiles and arms crossed while totally subdued, and I mean totally as in often doesn't say a single word through entire segments, as opposed to his usual frenetic blabbermouthing about every little free-association that pops into his Dem-hating mind, especially about the Clintons. It's obvious this was supposed to be his wedding night, but his girl is down the hall with his best man.
Anyway, Katrina VanDenHeuvel brings up the Latino population in Nevada, along with the unions there and economic populism, and the problem those pose to Hillary. Howard Fineman joins in about the Latino community which is a huge factor in both Nevada and on Super Tuesday. "I think the Hispanic vote could well be the thing that decides the Democratic nomination." All three campaigns have to make inroads into the Hispanic community.
And Tweety perks up. The Hispanic community can kill the Clintons. The Hispanic community can kill the Clintons! "Explain why, Howard. You have to explain why. Let's talk it through." ... "Let me paint by numbers here: Hillary is white, Barack is black, that leaves brown. That's what it's about, right? Fineman - "That's exactly what it's about." Matthews - "I don't want to make it too complicated here, but if you're Hillary Clinton here you're going to try to win this thing against an African-American candidate who may be the pioneer of this coming century in terms of opportunity for African-Americans in politics. You gotta find some other field of play." Then he gets this real shit-eating grin on his face and leans back on his elbow looking back and forth grinning while Keith closes out the segment.
Matthews is working out how to play the race card against the Clintons. African-Americans AND Latinos better vote for Barack if they want 'opportunity in the coming century'.
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Wed Jan-09-08 01:59 AM
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1. Scarborough and Eugene had something going, too |
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Scarborough asked if it was possible that when those white voters in NH actually got into the booth, they could not bring themselves to cast the vote for the black man. He surmised that they had lied to the pollsters earlier, or had not known until actually in the booth that they could not do it. Eugene grudging admitted that it was possible.
Someone at GE MSNBC is planting a seed of racial bias into the commentariat.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:12 AM
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2. I told you all in my many posts that the race card was played by |
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the obama's first but I was called a racist.
Now it sticks out like a sore thumb. It's all about race to the pundits and talking heads. So 110, 000 folks in new hampshire are now bigots and racists? WOW!
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:16 AM
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How is Obama or any Obama supporters playing the race card? |
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Just cause Hillary played the sympathy card?
I would hate to think that too many folks will vote based on the color of the candidate, cause that wouldn't bode well for Barack overall.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:19 AM
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7. latinos are more prejudiced towards blacks than vice versa... |
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So HRC may be competitive in NV.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:13 AM
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:13 AM by FrenchieCat
But maybe Richardson can take some of them though..if he doesn't drop out "just in time".
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:38 AM
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12. Hillary didn't play the sympathy card, |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:39 AM by seasonedblue
she choked up for a moment, and that moment was analyzed endlessly by every pundit in the country.
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Wed Jan-09-08 06:45 AM
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19. Obama's appeal is solid among the white's who say they support him |
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Iowa proved that. I think when people like him they really like him. White people also. There is a hell of a lot to like about Obama. He is a very gifted individual who stands for positive core American values.
Unless he gets elected President and does a great job in that job though, or unless he fails to win the nomination and does a great job in the Senate for another 4 to 6 years, there simply will be some who harbor some doubts over whether Obama is ready yet to take command on the world stage. Very literally, that is debateable, and it is being debated right now. I think if Obama had already served 8 years in the U.S. Senate with a solid record of achievement over that type of time span on the national and international stage, he would be our runaway nominee right now.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:18 AM
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5. Hillary played the "race card" when she dumped driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. |
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She made a decision that it was too costly. B/C hey, where the fuck else are latinos are going to go...Oops except "Mr. Amnesty" John McCain who will have Reps swallowing their dislike of him to keep HRC out of the WH.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:35 AM
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11. Seems to me you are blaming Obama for actions |
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of some few of his supporters maybe on DU or elsewhere I don't know.
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Wed Jan-09-08 06:26 AM
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18. That whole voting-booth drama thing is just incredible to me. |
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Picturing someone in the voting booth saying to themselves "I just...I just can't do it! He's too...BLACK! AGGGGGH!"
Have we really come no further than that as a society?
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:15 AM
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3. Hillary will take Nevada, and what will they say then? |
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both of them can eat some more on air crow this weekend.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:16 AM
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4. What is his problem? geez! |
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:19 AM
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"as opposed to his usual frenetic blabbermouthing"
Perfect!
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:25 AM
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8. Here's A California Poll* |
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http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=90a2f21e-aea6-4c2f-83a4-689076d62e09Hillary is beating Obama more than 3-1 among Hispanics... Tweety and Fineman better mine for votes elsewhere * I am inferring that Hispanics throughout the country more or less vote like Hispanics in California...
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:52 AM
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16. Yeah, in Texas (tho our primary is late) |
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female Hispanics are some of the most actively organizing for HC. They remember Bill here.
BTW, what a pecuilar thing for Tweety to think -- that if you're not white you automatically have a vested interest in one candidate or the other. If Tweety isn't a closet racist himself, he certainly has some very odd notions about culture and community.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:43 AM
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25. We're from the same state, but differ on the closet |
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Matthews needs to come out of. I think he is a woman-hating, latent homosexual; not unusual for a crucifix-on-his-sleeve Catholic.
Remember him gushing over "Aqua Velva Fred" Thompson (and BTW do you know any women who think he's attractive)? Last night he was gushing uncontrollably over Obama, weeping for the cruelty of Obama's media ordained rout that was denied him. I am so sick of Tweety's adolescent man-love sandwiched between the undisguised venom he directs toward Hillary. It's more than Clinton hate. It's more than being on the Republican job-security-in-media wagon. He hates her in great part because she is female, and powerful.
Come into the light, Tweety; embrace your feminine side. Your wanton suppression of your own nature is painful to deal with. And while you are at it, shut up and listen half the time, you have little to say anyway.
Note to GLBT's-totally love you, this is not anti-gay. It is anti woman-hating and anti-letting your deep subconscious drive you to blabbing a bunch of stupid shit to a national audience.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:32 AM
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9. Why Are They Racializing The Campaign? |
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And Tweety perks up. The Hispanic community can kill the Clintons. The Hispanic community can kill the Clintons! "Explain why, Howard. You have to explain why. Let's talk it through." ... "Let me paint by numbers here: Hillary is white, Barack is black, that leaves brown. That's what it's about, right? Fineman - "That's exactly what it's about." Matthews - "I don't want to make it too complicated here, but if you're Hillary Clinton here you're going to try to win this thing against an African-American candidate who may be the pioneer of this coming century in terms of opportunity for African-Americans in politics. You gotta find some other field of play." Then he gets this real shit-eating grin on his face and leans back on his elbow looking back and forth grinning while Keith closes out the segment.
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Wed Jan-09-08 06:51 AM
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20. I hate divide and conquor strategies |
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The Clintons have had strong ties with the Black community throughout their entire careers. This is of course a unique challenge for them, to keep those ties strong while a strong African American male makes a very serious run for the Presidency. It produces a difficult choice for many people, and a lot of Black women in particular face serious soul searching over their choice this time around. And of course it was Bill Clinton who brought Bill Richardson to real prominence through inclusion in his Administration in the first place.
Meanwhile Barack Obama couldn't possible be more inclusive in his appeal to Americans of all races than he is being. It isn't Democrats who are focused on driving wedges between the races.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:35 AM
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10. I hope you don't mind my borrowing Tweety's quote, which I heard also -- |
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:39 AM
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Just don't associate anything Tweety says with me.
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:42 AM
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14. On seond thought, I think you've said it all. K&R! |
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Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 AM
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15. Is he going to hug and kiss her again? |
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Maybe pinch her cheek again? That type of "big play"?
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:22 AM
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21. How many Clintons does he think are running, anyway? n/t |
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Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 AM
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22. Good god! What a great post. K&R |
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:12 AM
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23. My opinion is that the MSM likes the Hillary come back because it keeps the fighting going which |
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gives them purpose for being. They will come up with any idea that will stir the pot and that's all it is. It's about ratings and who can be the most controversial.
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Wed Jan-09-08 11:18 AM
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24. If you could possibly read the minds of the MSM-that is pretty damn close |
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