Did anyone else catch Michelle Obama's dance at the end of Barak's concession?

[Fredda Weinberg]

I'll reserve comment.

[GalleryGod]

1. Then why post about it ?[ I thought you were still on Will Pitt's Book tour?]

Comment on this: Princeton & Harvard Law graduate.

[Fredda Weinberg]

2. My mother's dead ... don't need to do PR anymore. Send my regards

to my former client - I don't regret helping him achieve his life's goals and making lots of DUers proud.

And if you're concerned about me, I've gotten my master's since then and my current title is CTO for a business that's being incubated by NYU.

Princeton & Harvard? I never thought much of ivy league schools when they recruited me ... don't hold much stock in 'em now. But Michelle's behavior at the end of Barak's speech - and his scowl - were revealing. Why close your eyes now, when the opportunities for our future are the brightest they've been in a decade?

[cali]

17. you must be incredibly insecure to repeatedly

brag in posts here. You do it over and over. Just sad. And making up stuff doesn't help make your case. Obama beamed last night and he couldn't possibly have been more gracious or complimentary to your candidate. Sad post againg.

[Fredda Weinberg]

45. Bragging? I was responding to a personal attack ... but it backfired.

That bothers you, doesn't it? After all, why shouldn't I be bitter about a former client who talks trash. Well, IRL, I got the position I have today because of my reputation. So I have no anger to direct ... at anyone, even you.

Why don't you just put me on ignore? That way, you can have a good time and I won't bother you.

[cali]

58. Put you on ignore?

You wish. I intend to call you on your ugly slurs every single time. Live with it. And you might notice, I'm joined by every person on this thread, not to mention everyone who commented in your disgusting thread slamming his little girls. You have zero credibility on this- and it's not just because of Brad. You did it yourself by posting this stuff.

A reflective person would like at the universal condemnation of your comments on these two threads and re-consider.

I have no doubt that you won't.

[JackORoses]

99. don't forget, Fred marched in the streets for Hillary...In the Streets!

never forget this
;)

[Fredda Weinberg]

140. Indeed. But I also campaigned around Brooklyn for Mario Cuomo

when he first ran for governor. Never, ever, forget that either ... as long as you're keeping track.

[H2O Man]

151. Yep.

[DS1]

115. You're really weird

[sniffa]

149. yes, yes she is

:rofl:

[Clintonista2]

3. Isn't Bush a Harvard graduate?

[GalleryGod]

4. Not Harvard Law.

SFW


My premise was simple: Don't come on here and "reserve comment"...take that load of lard to the DU Lounge. Unless Ms. Weinberg is a for Judge with Dancing with the Stars...then she can weigh-in.

Your forces won last night!
Kudos & Congrats !

Next Stop: S.C. and Nevada.

Let's Dance.

[Cha]

56. You rock!

Yes, that tired ol' cliche but it's true GG!

[Sanity Claws]

7. Yale undergraduate

[JI7]

5. hmmm, after that thread you made attacking his daughters

and now this.....

[Fredda Weinberg]

9. Where did I attack children? I dare you to back up that libel.

[cali]

35. LOL!! Libel it isn't.

You attacked his little girls behavior on stage after the Iowa win, and you made a grotesque and bizzare "argument" that he wouldn't be a good president because he had young children and had never been tested by teenagers. You can't get away with fudging about that OP, Fredda. Thousands saw it, and we know the truth- and your "truthiness". Your unfounded attacks on Obama reflect something very unsavory- and not about Obama or his family.

I wonder what the root of your hatred for him is? Could it have something to do with a story you tell about having a shoe thrown at you after MLK was assassinated.

[Fredda Weinberg]

62. No link? No quote? Just your opinion. Gotcha, cali

Ah, the '68 riots, when I saw my mother cry. Yup, I know how I feel about living in East Flatbush, but remember dear ... I'm still in Brooklyn, only a few miles away and get along very well in real life with everyone. So, imagine what you will - I've done what I can to leave this world a better place - when your program is profiled on the evening news, you can say I'm bragging. Until then, I'm contributing despite the circumstances under which I find myself.

[onenote]

79. so everyone can make their own minds up: link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3957785

[Bonobo]

80. That confirmed it. Thanks. Here is a direct quote of her opening line from that OP.

Describing Obama's CHILDREN... "a disturbing need for attention, a willingness to behave for approval and ... in the younger, none of the polished composure that hides the motivations for everyone on the stage."

Any parent would be disgusted.

[Fredda Weinberg]

96. Disgusted by what? A need for approval? Even out of context, what's

wrong with kids wanting to be cute? In context, it's disturbing because it resembles a stage set called Camelot - and the thread was about Oprah's influence on the phenomena.

[Bonobo]

101. Disgusted by you bringing children into it.

[Lefty-Taylor]

103. Fredda, you were putting down a six-year-old and a nine-year-old!!!??!!!

Wow. You are so out of line it is absolutely breathtaking.

[Fredda Weinberg]

112. Putting down a 6 year old for being cute? That's your imagination

I remember the early 60's - the Kennedy kids where everywhere. That's not critical, or negative or bringing anyone down ... it's a statement of fact. Just like the one I made.

If you have a point, make it. Otherwise, you're projecting.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

148. I missed the cute part on this one.

"Observing the two girls, I see a disturbing need for attention , a willingness to behave for approval and ... in the younger, none of the polished composure that hides the motivations for everyone on the stage.

[karynnj]

109. No wrong with YOU criticizing them

They seemed completely charming to me - as were Edwards' kids last time and Edwards was saved by Leiberman from being my least favorite of the potentially viable candidates.

As it happens, my niece took dance lessons (if you can call the preschool stuff dance) in 2004 with the younger Obama girl, my sister and her partner both said the Obamas were very nice people who did not expect to be treated differently from anyone else. My niece liked her, but wanted why she couldn't be on TV too.

[Fredda Weinberg]

111. But what was the criticism? Seriously, the kids were cute, but

I was making a point about show biz and politics. Why assume anything negative about kids when they were simply the beginning of an observation?

[Bonobo]

113. Your point was incomprehensible. Make it again.

[karynnj]

114. Sorry, but it sounded negative to me and others

It was a major event in their family's life. I seriously can't picture anyone not having their family there. They did not impact the speech - I noticed them, thought they looked beautiful and thought absolutely nothing of it.

[Fredda Weinberg]

128. Oh, for Pete's sake. Of course they belonged there. Where did

I claim otherwise? Please stop making baseless accusations.

[EffieBlack]

93. Wow!

Thanks for providing the context.

Wow.

[Fredda Weinberg]

98. Wow what? I'm curious what you find offensive n/t

[DS1]

117. wow, what a freak

[cali]

88. here's your revolting, bigoted quote

God, you realy are pathological.

Don't choke on your own words, Fredda.

The Obamas and Oprah ... here's my issue
Observing the two girls, I see a disturbing need for attention, a willingness to behave for approval and ... in the younger, none of the polished composure that hides the motivations for everyone on the stage.

It's a dream - a lovely dream ... but it rained in the daytime during Camelot and the last time we had small children in the WH, we could be distracted by family antics. This is a presidential candidate who hasn't faced his own teen's rebellion and if anyone is unproven, it's a young dad.

Happy feet vocabulary will get us only so far ... I've waited for practical responses to intractable issues, not excuses for the way they are. When I hear talk about hope, I hear easy answers - but progress is made with compromise and reciprocity. FDR & LBJ walked in w/a portfolio of owed favors.

Even the talk about unity makes me nervous. Michael Eric Dyson, a professor at Georgetown University "who has studied racial identity" according to today's NYTimes, describes Obama as a member of his own tribe. Would Oprah have campaigned for a white candidate?

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

97. It's hard for me to call it bigotted.

Because it's too damn incoherent for me to interpret it as anything. Does it even have a point?

Seriously WTF does this even mean?

"Observing the two girls, I see a disturbing need for attention, a willingness to behave for approval and ... in the younger, none of the polished composure that hides the motivations for everyone on the stage."

[Fredda Weinberg]

102. It wasn't about ethinicity, so it's hardly bigoted. It was about a show family

And Michelle was performing again when I saw the repeat this morning. What any of this has to do w/race is beyond me.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

105. Explain to me the point you're trying to make if any, seriuosly. n/t

[Fredda Weinberg]

116. Seriously ... I want innoculate us from show biz influences by

pointing them out. It was like the theatre class I took, where I warned that I would never appreciate a show again as a passive audience member. Those of us who accepted the cost, learned how to move people. It's not cynicism - you have to have real talent.

What I saw last night was Michelle Obama's ... call it her interpretation - respond to it in your own way, but her husband's facial expression was telling, if fleeting. Asking if anyone else caught it seemed to be the best way to open a conversation.

Seriously ... I expected some to have seen it, others not.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

123. No, let me try again. I was responding to the thing about his kids

which then jumps to Michael Eric Dyson said this and that. It makes no sense therefore I can't judge whether it's bigoted or just simply incoherent.

"Observing the two girls, I see a disturbing need for attention, a willingness to behave for approval and ... in the younger, none of the polished composure that hides the motivations for everyone on the stage." What exactly does this mean?

[Fredda Weinberg]

138. You may not follow, but there was reason that led from one

observation to the other. Bigotry in this case is in the eye of the beholder - because it was Dyson who mentioned Africans seeing Obama as one of their own. It may seen natural to you, but I come from a tribal society ... so my perception to such a remark would be different.

What does a need for attention mean? What do you think? It has nothing to do with race ... that's for sure.

The post started w/an observation of a child's innocent behavior. It made me wonder about the more guarded behavior of the adults ... but I hadn't yet seen Michelle's performance. Thinking back to Oprah's involvement, which concerns me because of, frankly, the question of whether this media giant - who gives away automobiles to her audience - would have campaigned for someone who wasn't African American. Dyson's use of the word "tribe" as loosely as he did carried other implications straight out of today's headlines.

Now, that these ideas came together in my mind for a question about this new Camelot-like scene is my personal thought process, which I've explained as clearly as I can. If it's still incoherent to you, I apologize for not communicating more clearly. But there's nothing bigoted or prejudice ... it's the exact opposite: I'm responding to what I'm actually noticing, not what I bring from my personal history.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

141. Is Rupert Murdoch holding fundraisers for Hillary Clinton

because she's white? That shit never gets asked until a black man starts running for something.

Judging from the responses you got either your "observation" was badly written and misinterpreted or you stepped on something and are now trying to fix it.

At the risk of being masochistic, I'll try this.: What was so disturbing about his kids or whatever you meant by that?

[Fredda Weinberg]

145. Nothing to fix. My observations were my own, even if you don't

understand or care for what I noticed.

I'm not a masochist either ... you didn't get my point, which is fine. Just don't assume, because you don't understand, that I had nefarious intentions. You read something into my words that just wasn't there. That's not me making anything right ... I'm fine w/what I reported.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

147. I just want you to know that as I'm typing this

I'm doing a little dance while I scowl at the screen.

[Bonobo]

104. You're right. It is pseudo-intellectual rubbish. Too much Derrida or something.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

106. You might be on to something. One minute is the kids did this then Michael Eric Dyson ....what....?

[Fredda Weinberg]

119. Dyson used the word "tribe", which may not bother you, but around

the world, it causes problems. So, you might not share my concern, but it's based on real circumstances.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

125. What does it have to do with the rest of your post. Plus who fucking

cares. Why is it an issue that Dyson made a statement as an outside observer? I highly doubt the rest of the world reads his work or even knows who he is. You're trying to make a connection to 2 things that has nothing to do with each other.

"Dyson used the word "tribe", which may not bother you, but around the world, it causes problems" Huh? Problems to whom, what kind of problems.

Is your point about his family, some dude saying tribe, what?

[Fredda Weinberg]

139. First of all, a civil tongue would be appropriate.

I made a connection between two things ... yes, humans do it all the time. One was an op-ed in the NY Times - you may have missed it but I try to keep up with world events.

Obviously, you missed my point, which is fine. We can share observations another day, if you can handle civil discourse.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

142. Sharing observations would be one thing. Going on and on

about things that seem to exist only in your head is something I'm not looking forward to. You know jack shit (ooops was that uncivil?) about these people.But because of politics you insult their family dynamic and then play dumb.

I'll do this for you. To put your mind at ease. I've met one of the Obamas former babysitter. She had nothing but the nicest things to say about them as a family and as people. I'm sure this will be a shock to you but they seem like a perfectly normal (whatever that means) family.

[Fredda Weinberg]

144. Good thing I don't share your hostility. I'm not shocked at all.

You imagined that I attacked one of our viable candidates and insulted me w/o cause. Oh well ... I'll continue to point out my observations and if you don't share them, by all means speak up. But you won't silence me by violating DU community standards.

I'm not playing anything. I've responded in a measured way to reasonable comments - and expect civil treatment in return. If you can't reciprocate, that's your problem. See my tagline for details.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

146. Which standards are being violated again?

I have no interest in silencing you. It seems to to me you're doing a great job of digging a bigger hole for yourself. Face it you tried to be clever and didn't work. You made something out of nothing and are now being rightfully called out on it.

[DivorcingNeo]

135. Please don't think your rhetoric

is going unnoticed. As someone stated your psuedo-intelletual rambling can not hide the key words you are throwing in there.

Once I've calmed down from the immediate emotional outburst I want to make, I will give a more thoughtful reply to your hyperbole.

[crikkett]

6. I didn't.

Can you tell me about it? (Just the facts not the comments)

[Fredda Weinberg]

10. I can only call it a dance ... while pointing with both hands over her

head at her husband. I've never seen anything like it at a modern political rally - did you catch the moment?

But you'll also have to look for Barak's scowl as he led her off the stage.

[ShortnFiery]

18. Wow, now you can read minds. Oh, Fredda, could it be something "ethnic" that operatives can take to

SC?!? :sarcasm:

Two words for "the petty opinion" that constituted the birth of this disgusting thread: MORAL BANKRUPTCY :thumbsdown:

Yesterday a buddy of HRC's wrote an OP ED in the Whorsington Post using Obama's middle name. That was transparently petty, this is, IMO, smarmy.

Have you no shame SIR or MA'AM?


Oh, nevermind. :nuke:

[Fredda Weinberg]

24. I described what I saw ... were your impressions different? If so, please

elaborate. Honestly ... your quiver ain't got no arrows.

[ShortnFiery]

43. Since you're into touting credentials, I can say with confidence ...

as a person who has earned her masters degree in the field of Clinical Psychology: interpreting non-verbal behaviors is far from an exact science. What you interpret as "a scowl" could have been "a playful expression" depending on the nature and personality of the subject.

Sincerely, as well as quoting your "honestly" ... have you no damn shame?!? :(

[Fredda Weinberg]

59. Ah, this response has potential. If you're sincere, then yes, of course

we agree. But that's why I posted just what I saw and the responses have been, to say the least, off the point.

But please, what was your intepretation of Barak's response as they walked off the stage? I'm really interested in hearing from someone else who saw it and can describe it any other way.

Ball's in your court ... I've been as civil as possible while describing an election that really matters ...

[Name removed]

75. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Fredda Weinberg]

91. Oh well. You think I'm white ... thanks, but no thanks.

You obviously have racial issues. I was mentioning the way a man looked at his wife. Sorry, but one of us is bringing an irrelevant agenda.

[cali]

44. what about Gore's big kiss with Tipper?

Shocking wasn't it? And how about all those nice things Barack said about Clinton?

[EffieBlack]

94. Sounds like you just have a problem with black people

Thanks for sharing.

[Fredda Weinberg]

120. Ah, the race card ... nope, you don't know anything about me.

It's funny, really. I grew up in East Flatbush, which had been redlined and was changing ethnicities. So I consider myself an internal US refugee. Anyhoo, my oldest brother was in Lefferts General ... not much, but what do you get in America w/o health insurance? So anyway, he asks my mother, because that's what he sees around him, "Mommy, am I black?"

So, no, I have a problem w/people who assume racism where none exists.

[crikkett]

143. She might have been a little tipsy and/or happy the day was over.

That might have been something I would do... lol glad she's a human.
I didn't watch television yesterday so I missed it.

[cali]

8. *snicker*

what a piece of.... work you are. And you couldn't possibly be more transparent.

[Fredda Weinberg]

11. Ah, but I'm not mean and vicious ... honestly, you wanted Hillary to suffer

didn't you? And my dignity offends you ... how sorry you are.

As for the Obamas, I'll continue to point out the obvious without rancor - I don't hold it again him that he derailed Nancy Skinner's campaign, but will always keep in mind this is a candidate who didn't work with us. Aside from that, I'm learning what I'm observing ... and last night was again revealing.

[cali]

21. No. I certainly didn't.

I defend Clinton here constantly. And anyone who's paying attention and has a shred of integrity and honesty, knows it.

He was amazingly gracious last night, and complimented your candidate in an extended comment.

You peer through a very distorted lens. And I think I know what the distortion could be.

[Bonobo]

38. I'm no Cali fan. But she certainly has been fair to Clinton.

[Fredda Weinberg]

63. I've posted the quote and link to where she wanted Hillary to suffer

more than necessary. This is cruelty, to which I do not subscribe.

[Fredda Weinberg]

41. Distortion? This is fun ... you're playing personal, but that's fine

Here's the link to your post

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3960235&mesg_id=3960390

Maybe it bothers you that I have friends who seek my advice? Anyhoo, adversity does build character, so to answer your question, yes, losing in NH would not have sunk her. In fact, I would have made an additional donation myself. As for your prediction, "She's about to get blown out of the water in NH" ... well, one of us knew enough to stay silent when others have free will.

[cali]

54. um, I was wrong, What does that have to do with anything.

Why would I give a shit that you have friends who seek your advice. And my prediction about Clinton in NH wasn't a slam. I make no secret that I don't support her for the nomination, but I've repeatedly been accused of being a stealth "hillbot" because of my defense of her.

You? Your attacks on Obama are very telling, particularly in the light of certain comments you've made.

[Fredda Weinberg]

89. You're imagining that I'm attacking Obama. I would never deliberately

damage a viable candidate from our party. But while a mature option exists, I will point out the obvious and if it stings, there was probably something wrong that disturbs you. Else, you would have taken my available option and simply enjoyed Michelle's show. The kids are fun to watch as well. Now, you wanna claim that I'm attacking children again? Feh.

So you don't want HRC to suffer ... you're aiming at me. Well, I've learned that bullies pick on me to become my friend, but first, I have to fight to to a draw. No need to hurt you ... just stand up to someone who obviously is accustomed to getting her own way. Not me, cali. Not me.

So, when you're feeling less stressed out and bitter, I'm here to enjoy. These are good times for Democrats and progressives in general. We have social models that work that are the envy of the world. I'm ready to take my part in making those good things happen and will happily share the experience w/you.

[Bonobo]

92. Blech, that post made me ill... cloyingly smug and self-congratulatory.

[sniffa]

150. do you expect any less?

:shrug:

[dionysus]

153. oh my... self-important much? and you think you're soooo very clever.

:rofl:

[Auntie Bush]

71. Yes, cali you have been fair about Clinton...I noticed!

:thumbsup: I don't mind criticism of my candidate but I get very upset when it isn't fair or untrue...especially if its some personal wild opinion of the attacter...announced as FACT. You see that a lot around here.

[youthere]

12. I think it was cute. I adore Michelle Obama. She's the next woman I'd like to see run!

[Fredda Weinberg]

20. Michelle does have great moves. Personally, I enjoyed it

But did you notice Barak's scowl ... that was scary.

[Bonobo]

29. You enjoyed it? I thought you had no comment.

I'm gonna kick this thread all day so people can see it.

Sometimes shame is the only tool you have to lead people to a mirror so they can look in.

[Fredda Weinberg]

50. Someone asked. And I wanted to get others' reactions first ... it was noticeable

behavior to me - but so was Barak's scowl.

[youthere]

121. Didn't notice it.

[dionysus]

154. *cough*bullshit*cough*

[progressivebydesign]

131. "cute" is a factor in choosing a femal candidate? n/t

[youthere]

133. Yeah...that was the "deciding" factor.

That's how I pick all my candidates, by their moves. :eyes: Good grief people are stupid today.

[Bonobo]

13. That's not reserving comment. That's making a snide, passive aggressive insinuation.

[burythehatchet]

14. not the first thread along those lines by the poster

[Name removed]

16. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Fredda Weinberg]

53. Racist? Mispelling my name? Sound like I should avoid you and

respect DU rules.

[Bonobo]

77. Yeah, people like you should avoid those who actually fight back against crap like this.

[Cha]

69. Nor the last..

nice to see so many calling her on her shit.

[alcibiades_mystery]

15. It is indeed

The OP's cowardice is obvious and reprehensible.

A disgusting post.

[cali]

23. something the

poster is wont to do- and does repeatedly.

[Fredda Weinberg]

28. How silly ... this is a message board. I described a public scene

and asked others if they noticed. You must be imagining something sinister to calls this snide or aggressive.

Sheesh, do you see ghosts in the dark too?

What I didn't raise was a concern I've had before ... the blurred between politics and entertainment. I've walked that razor's edge and survived, so your bullets now are blunt, believe me.

[Bonobo]

33. I guess you shall not mind if I keep firing my "blunt" bullets.

You can pretend that you made an innocuous thread, but well, it doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

You are not half as clever as you seem to think you are.

[SoxFan]

19. Douchenozzle of the Day

Congratulations, Fredda, you're a winner...

[cali]

25. I'll second that. n/t

[Jersey Devil]

37. ROFL - Damn you!

Coffee all over the keyboard! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[ShortnFiery]

52. I nominiate this for "The Most Petty Thread Topic EVER!" eom

[Fredda Weinberg]

65. Did I ever call it profound? My, we are sensitive today n/t

[Didereaux]

130. How is that an insult? Young males spend 99% of their time trying be where that goes!

[ronnykmarshall]

22. Dance Michelle!

[Bonobo]

26. OMG! The licentiousness!

[alcibiades_mystery]

48. You know how the Negroes do

:sarcasm:

[Cha]

72. Yeah, Bobby Kennedy

said that in 40 years a "Negro" could win the White House! YAY!

[Fredda Weinberg]

68. Maybe the Obamas could go on tour ... like the Osmonds n/t

[vi5]

27. Perhaps she should have cried....

I gues she didn't have enough consultants telling her that would have tested better than dancing.

[Fredda Weinberg]

30. But did you see Barak's scowl? Honestly, I was simply entertained

until I saw that expression.

[Bonobo]

32. So now you were "entertained" by the "scowl"? Please don't stop now!

[Fredda Weinberg]

47. Michelle was fun to watch. Barak was not. Sorry if I wasn't clear n/t

[Bonobo]

49. Don't worry. You are clearer than you think, or should I say "transparent"?

[ShortnFiery]

34. Oh, kindly give this smarmy attempt at a "whisper campaign" a well needed REST.

The people ain't buying this petty bull shit - regardless of candidate - this is just sick-minded obsession to focus on such GARBAGE into the inconsequential. :thumbsdown:

[Fredda Weinberg]

57. How can you whisper with your own real name? I described what

I saw at a public event. If you can't handle legitimate commentary, it's your problem ... I'm fine with what I'm doing here.

[cali]

61. Not one other person is fine with it.

Not even the most passionate Clinton supporters. That should tell you something. They have decency. You? None at all.

[vi5]

39. Well, seriously then he needs to get with the program...

Obviously he doesn't have enough focus groups and high paid insiders telling him which facial expressions and responses get the most reactions and the most votes. Sucker.

[cali]

40. sure you were.

no one's buying the crap you peddle. And I never saw him scowl. Doesn't seem anyone else caught that either. Did you catch his gracious words about Clinton and Edwards? No? Why don't you comment on that?

[Bonobo]

42. Kick for visibility. This is what racism in "liberal" communities looks like.

[cali]

46. considering

the OP's comments in other threads, I'm sorry to say that that's a possibility- and thanks, Bonobo.

[alcibiades_mystery]

51. I think with "Didja catch that colored woman dancing" thread it's moved from

possibility, straight through probability, to a damn near certainty.

I can't believe people speak this way in public.

[ShortnFiery]

60. Damn well put a_m ! They don't even know that they are harboring covert stereotypes which if not

be made aware of (gee those black folk sure do dance funny) would not even realize they are bordering on covert racism. :crazy:

Reminds me of a Comedy Video that was circulated around the web, "How to Dance Like a Black Man." :P

As human beings, we all MUST, at times, "stereotype" groups of people in order to make sense of the world. However, it's what we do after we make ourselves aware of those thoughts that differentiate us as "thoughtful and compassionate humanitarians" from the "kool-aid drinking racists." :shrug:

[Fredda Weinberg]

70. Actually, the only offensive language was yours. Mine was

regarding the relationship between male and female. Why did you drag race into this? Don't you know ... I'm not even what whites consider white?

[alcibiades_mystery]

74. Your post is beneath contempt

and beneath further response.

[cali]

95. really?

so you have an AA background, or another ethnic minority background? Because Jews of European heritage are considered caucasians.

[sniffa]

152. unless you consider short, squat and white as snow to be in that category

then no.

[LittleClarkie]

157. You're not what whites consider white? Did you poll them all to come to that conclusion?

Whites all think the same, doncha know.

[Renew Deal]

31. What happened?

[Fredda Weinberg]

55. At the end of the concession speech, Michelle did a cheer for the

crowd ... pointing to her husband ... it was something, but not for me to interpret. Catch it if you can.

But Barak's scowl was unmistakable - an angry expression I have seen before and avoid whenever possible. If others see it, I'd be interested in their reaction - I know where mine came from.

[Adelante]

36. Is this one of those DUzy posts?

Jesus fucking Christ :rofl:

[truebrit71]

64. No shit...what a fucking stupid thread...

...:eyes:

[Fredda Weinberg]

66. I take it you have no clue what I'm talking about, don't care and wouldn't

Congratulations ... this post's for you!

[truebrit71]

82. In the same vein is this f*cking stupid thread "I'll reserve comment".

...:eyes:

[City Lights]

67. More like a DON'Tzy.

:puke:

[Fredda Weinberg]

73. I wish it was. But I guess you missed the scowl ... well, if I'm right

it won't be the last noticeable demonstration. Wait for next time ... until then, I bid you peace.

[Indie Girl]

78. heh

I saw that and he didn't look too pleased. I think it was a good wake up call that he can't run on catchy phrases alone. There are intelligent people out there looking for substance. The DJIA was down almost 2% yesterday and he expected voters to vote on some rehased words and not the real issues this country faces. I'm looking forward to Edwards bumping him down come super T, it will happen.

[ShortnFiery]

83. Nice tangental personality attack and extrapolation into the absurd ...

MOST. VAPID. THREAD. TOPIC. EVER. :crazy:

[Fredda Weinberg]

87. I enjoyed Edwards' phrase, "It's my privilege to be here"

I appreciated that and wish him and his family well.

[cali]

110. Congratulations on a dishonest post and on the company

you've chosen. Obama's speech was specific on policy- from economics to global warming, and gracious toward both Clinton and Edwards.

And we'll see what happens on Super Tuesday, but don't expect Edwards to play a large part. As for the immediate future, the odds are very good that he'll come in first there. As Donna Brazile pointed out yesterday, Bill's comments are not endearing him or Hillary with the AA community. Should he keep it up, she's gonna start hemorrhaging the black vote.

[Bonobo]

76. I'm loving this thread. Kick.

[cali]

85. I'm actually having more of a love/hate thing with it

but in the interest of exposing something revolting, I'll join you in kicking.

[Bonobo]

81. Whatsa matter, don't want to talk about the dancing anymore?

[Bonobo]

84. I will take your silence as an admission that you fucked up badly starting this thread.

I'm done with you.

[Fredda Weinberg]

86. Actually, I've got an intern coming in ... I started this thread hours ago

Catch ya later ... real life needs me.

[Bonobo]

90. Oooh, an "intern"!!! Wow, did he/she get recruited by IVY LEAGUE SCHOOLS too?

Wow!!

[cali]

100. bwahahaha

Next: Fredda claims she has to run off to be interviewed on the evening news.

[GalleryGod]

107. Kick it!

Where's Will Pitt...I be-lieve he's a PERSONAL FRIEND of Ms. Weinberg's

[ShortnFiery]

108. No, Fredda may have rushed off to a Wedding Reception where everyone there "dances WHITE."

No "untoward moves" are interpreted by the white intelligentsia when one performs the coveted "Caucasian Clap." :crazy: :P

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HiuCaaQhxg&watch_response

[BeyondGeography]

118. No scowling black men either

[Fredda Weinberg]

124. The office is in Pace University. Close enuf?

Tharun and Dhara are NYU grad students and my responsibility. It's the end of my day ... started this thread @ 5 AM. So have a good one ... it's been fine here.

[Bonobo]

126. So what are these students supposed to learn from you? I hope it's not how to write clearly.

[LittleClarkie]

158. Perhaps they've learned how to bullshit their way through an essay test

That's how her posts read. Like someone who didn't study the materials is trying to bullshit their way through a test.

I used to do that on occasion, hence I know what it looks like.

[ShortnFiery]

127. Keep those blinders secured!

That's just plain sad.

It's impossible to enjoy a two way discussion with someone who adheres to a stubborn one-way analysis of another's non-verbal behaviors. Yes, it's just VAPID, PETTY .... and SAD. :(

[Marie26]

122. Ignored

I'll reserve comment.

[knowledgeispwr]

129. First the post about the Obama kids and now this?

What's with you?

What about her dance anyway? I saw it, but I don't understand why anyone would post about it without saying anything. I haven't been paying enough attention to know which candidate you support, but you sure aren't doing them any favors.

[LanternWaste]

132. I thought it was charming and human...

I thought it was charming and human. A strong component of the Democratic candidates in this election cycle.

What I don't find charming is stating that the candidate's children have a "disturbing need for attention". I see that as nothing more than mere baseless speculation. Very, very bad form.

Maybe we can leave the kids out of it and stick to the issues...

[Blue-Jay]

134. I'm sorry that the scary black man frightened you with his "scowl".

Maybe you'd feel better if the nice black woman danced for you some more.

[dionysus]

155. LOL

nice zing!

[Bonobo]

136. I'll give you the same advice I give my daughter.

If you are saying that people are misunderstanding your intent, you have to adjust the way you are expressing yourself.

In other words, maybe you're not a racist, but you are certainly are overwhelmingly giving that impression. That is plenty of reason to examine yourself and change the way you are communicating.

Verstehen?

[zulchzulu]

137. I've seen Michelle up close and she is a fox

Barack has very good taste. I did miss the dance though....

[Moochy]

156. Leave it to the Kwazy OP To have most flame and zero Recs

U so kwazy!