disenfranchised
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:15 PM
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SUSA Poll Edwards beating Bush in North Carolina |
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Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:18 PM by disenfranchised
Edwards can win his home state. Bush 53% Kerry 42% Bush 47% Edwards 50% 2/23/04-2/25/04 m.o.e. 3.9% Survey USA
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:19 PM
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1. 14 key electoral votes |
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I'm not sure as a running mate Edwards can deliver NC to Kerry, but perhaps as the nominee?
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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I think we have a much better shot with John Edwards at the top of the ticket.
If nothing else it would force Bush to fight for the South. Bush wouldn't be able to camp out in the battlegraound states of the midwest and southwest like he will if Kerry is the nominee.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:20 PM
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2. Sorta clears up the 'what state can he bring in that Kerry can't' question |
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:24 PM
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8. What about all the states Kerry can bring that Edwards can't? |
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Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:32 PM by lancdem
Are you aware of any other states where Edwards does better against Bush than Kerry does?
(BTW, I don't mean to denigrate this. I think it's great Edwards leads Bush in a state Bush should win easily.)
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:33 PM
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11. I don't know of any, quite honestly. |
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I think our 2000 blue states are still blue, and I think either candidate will keep them blue. :)
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:34 PM
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12. There are no states that Kerry can win that Edwards can't! |
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Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:38 PM by tryanhas
The point of the matter is Edwards can win VOTERS AND STATES that John Kerry cannot, and anyone who has not realized that yet is beyond helping.
Sort of makes Kerry look like an idiot for his statement that "EDWARDS CAN'T EVEN BEAT BUSH IN HIS HOME STATE."
Of course we know that you can beat Bush in LITTLE OLD MASS. JOHN KERRY, because it's so liberal up there, but what can you do outside of your comfort zone?
Not much.
Kerry would lose some of the states that Gore won, and if he did, what's he going to do next?
You all always start with the assumption that Kerry IS AUTOMATICALLY ENTITLED TO WIN THE STATES THAT GORE WON, but my question for you is what if he doesn't???
States like NY and California are going to have a lot of those electronic voting machines, like NH did during their primary, and SKULL AND BONES MADE SURE THAT KERRY WON NH JUST LIKE YOU ALL BELIEVE REPUBLICANS WILL TRY TO DO FOR BUSH COME NOVEMBER.
This entire process is a joke. Just like you all believe the republicans will rig the election in November with the voting machines, they are already being rigged for Kerry's Skull and Bones behind right now.
That's why I don't think that Edwards has any chance in NY or California during the primaries, especially if it is close.
But in a general election, Edwards can win those states by wide enough margins to not be screwed by the machines, and he can also win IN STATES LIKE NORTH CAROLINA THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE PAPER BALLOTS instead of the hackable voting machines.
Just something to think about...
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Thu Feb-26-04 07:09 PM
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:21 PM
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3. That's not the most solid lead |
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That's within the margin of error.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:24 PM
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7. Kerry's loss is outside the MOE, however... n/t |
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:25 PM
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Kerry put Edwards down for not being able to win his home state. Well, he's within the margin of error.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:22 PM
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5. Sorry about the broken link. |
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I can't figure out how to fix it.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:32 PM
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10. red state doesn't matter |
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:34 PM
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13. It does if we WIN it! |
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That's 14 electoral votes Bush doesn't get.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:36 PM
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15. No, that's the wrong attitude |
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I assure you that Karl Rove and his personal assistant George W. Bush are not writing off the blue states.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:35 PM
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14. Edwards could have more of a southern strategy |
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If it was Kerry I would contest VA, FL, AR and LA. If it was Edwards I would contest those plus NC, TN and maybe Georgia. Edwards can still be savaged though over the "not ready for prime time" argument, which unfortunately can resonate deeply with the "9/11 changed everything" crowd.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:36 PM
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16. Theres still some vetting to be done on Edwards that could |
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radically alter that poll result.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:43 PM
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18. Oh and there ISN'T on Kerry? Kerry is the cookie cutter perfect GOP nom |
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Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 05:51 PM by Bombtrack
when you subtract Vietnam
Kerry only does 1 point better than Edwards in New Hampshire against Bush, Edwards is way better in NC.
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Thu Feb-26-04 06:10 PM
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We were on the same side once. ;)
Until someone goes negative on a candidate you never will know, right? I am only expressing my opinion and the fact that Edwards has not been tested to the degree Kerry has.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:40 PM
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Earlier polls showing Bush winning NC reflected some resentment at Edwards for entering the race in the middle of his first term. But now that he's had respectable showings, Carolinians are showing more respect for his candidacy.
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Thu Feb-26-04 05:46 PM
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19. Just like with Clinton |
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Clinton was losing to Bush 1 in Arkansas before he was nominated
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Thu Feb-26-04 06:52 PM
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21. This is absolutely remarkable. |
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But, not unexpected. Don't fall into the Kerry trap. For those who have the nerve, go into freerepublic and have a look at the election threads... Virtually all of them are salivating for a Bush-Kerry matchup, whilst genuinly fearing Edwards.
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Thu Feb-26-04 06:58 PM
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22. The link does not work. |
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Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 07:00 PM by MATTMAN
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Thu Feb-26-04 07:18 PM
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24. "beating *Bush"? this light weight cant even beat DK in Hawaii |
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Thu Feb-26-04 07:19 PM
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25. That is not what the poll says. |
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