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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:06 PM
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Strange Phenomenon Among Democrats (Anyone seen this?)
I work in the dramatically liberal field of Human Services, and I do not bring up politics at work unless
A) The other person is aware of my conservatism and is comfortable with it, agree or not.
B) The other person is a repeat offender making bigoted statements about conservatives. Come to think of it, I seldom mention politics at those points, but make comments about reasoning or prejudice.
C) My comment is nonthreatening enough to dampen possible hostility. For example, a Will Rogers quote or a comment about Calvin Coolidge or politicians in general is seldom problematic.

Today, the day after the NH primary, had many Democrats making remarkably hostile comments to each other. I have not heard this before, and I have worked there since 1978.

I walked into a nearby office in which one resident was stating, with no little asperity "I think she's a vindictive bitch." Sensing some nastiness brewing, I tried to rescue the situation. "No, see, that's the part I like about her. I can visualize a Maggie Thatcher/Falklands scenario with Hillary. I like irritability, which is why I liked McCain and Thompson." No one thought that was in the least humorous, nor did my offering my Republican neck in sacrifice distract them.
http://assistantvillageidiot.blogspot.com/2008/01/strange-phenomenon-among-democrats.html

I stumbled upon other angry, defensive people throughout the day. "But what has Obama done? What's his resume?" "I think that crying of hers was fake." "She was tired from campaigning, why wouldn't she cry?" It was fun for me, because I had whole new audiences for my line about having Obama at least run a golf tournament before we make him president, and mentioning that a Democratic strategist had recommended that Hillary appear more vulnerable just a few days ago. I thought many times during the day how the criticisms of Hillary are exactly - did I mention precisely? - what the most fevered of right wingnuts have been saying for over a decade. I didn't say that out loud, of course, but I marveled at it. Criticisms that aroused rage and accusation a decade ago even when watered down are now considered common knowledge among Democrats. Seemingly, half of them know that Hillary is corrupt and deceitful and say it more forcefully than Republicans were allowed to in polite conversation as recently as a year ago. The netroots even has people accusing Hillary of stealing the election with Diebold machines. I can only conclude that deceit and corruption were not considered a problem when they were used for uh, good causes.

Will it last? I rather doubt it. Like siblings who fight but defend each other to outsiders, it may all calm down for the general election. As a conservative, I'd love to see the light dawn on many, but I don't expect it. Something interesting in all this, though. Close elections in the primaries won't hurt Republicans at all - they will keep issues in the forefront. Media likes to focus on horserace news, which is never to conservatives advantage. But state-by-state close primaries won't do the Democrats any good at all. Pressure reveals truth.

Update: Much the same today. Psychologists were much worried about what it meant about NH that people would tell pollsters they voted for Obama when they hadn't. It was mentioned with meaningful glance that this used to be a Republican state. Oh sure. Like the behavior of Democrats is our fault. Sheesh.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:11 PM
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1. And Paglia showed up in my email today.
All the women on my list are worshipping Obama.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:19 PM
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2. It's largely the result of fifteen years of incontinent slander. You should be proud.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:33 PM
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4. I should be proud? I'm only fourteen. nt
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:37 PM
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6. self delete
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 02:39 PM by Skidmore
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:44 PM
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7. Oh, c'mon. you can say it. nt
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:52 PM
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8. So you've worked since 1978 huh?
Edited on Fri Jan-11-08 02:54 PM by lunatica
Here's your sentence:


"Today, the day after the NH primary, had many Democrats making remarkably hostile comments to each other. I have not heard this before, and I have worked there since 1978."

That's 40 years. So you're probably at least 60 years old.

And you call yourself truth to power?!

:silly:
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:59 PM
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9. 30 years
Take your shoes off.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:04 PM
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11. Oh, now I see. For the slower ones I will explain
The post is from a blog written by someone other than me! You see, when things are posted here with links,
that is a sure sign that the link in question refers to the source of what is posted.

Anyway, this is something that I received in my inbox and thought was interesting to share.

Primaries always bring out this type of behavior.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:45 PM
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15. Explain that you didn't write this in your title, not halfway down the post.
You're 14 years old? Ok, Ender Wiggins... what's in this for you?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:28 PM
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3. maybe a lot of Democrats are irritable about the media electing a candidate for them.. i saw an
article on CNN about how their coverage of ant particular candidate raised them in the polls.. then proceeded to
disappear Edwards by mentioning obama 1st and hillery 3rd, swooning over how obama was soooo charismatic and the re-thugs call hillery a bitch...

i must admit i an concerned about the illegal campaigning for individuals for free and dissing and disappearing others... the media is controlled by the Reich Wing and it is apparent to me they are stealing this election thru the primaries.

did you know that the Dean Scream was digitally altered, it was isolated out of a roomful of screaming people.. into an annoying sound then hammered into viewers worse than a 'head on' commercial

they are doing it again..

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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:32 PM
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13. Can I have a link to the digitally altered and isolated
"Dean Scream?"
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 02:34 PM
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5. "Like siblings who fight but defend each other to outsiders."
That's me.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:04 PM
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10. This wingnut says Hillary-hate is turning Democrats into wingnuts, too.
He says that he now hears Democrats saying the same things about Hillary that used to only be said by the most extreme right-wing nuts. Accusation. Invective. Insult. (But no evidence.)

IOW, today's Democrats who talk about Hillary's coldness, dishonesty, calculation are riding on the same bus with howling, lynch-mob Republicans. Hillary-hate binds these people together in their distaste for a woman whom none of them can accuse of anything SPECIFIC, but hate just the same on account of their "gut-feeings about her."
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 03:08 PM
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12. Yes, and he's enjoying the spectacle. nt
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 08:41 PM
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14. I would too if I were a Republican. nt
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neutron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:13 PM
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16. the Obama and Edwards people are seriously intolerant
and are putting out pure crap. Today they had a diary saying
Hillary had RIGGED the New Hampshire election.

And if you say anything about those two candidates, they will
throw you off dKos before you knew what happened.

This bunch pushed me right over to take a closer look at Hillary.
They claim she "goes negative." But her campaign is clean and
upbeat compared to what goes on in the blogs by the Edwards/Obama
bunch.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-11-08 10:23 PM
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17. you from dkos? nt
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