Why did the cartoonist TomTomorrow include Kerry in this 'toon?

[RichM]

Is it because TT is not perceptive? Not "informed?" Is it because TT is a closet rightwinger? A "media whore?" Is it because TT is a "Dem Basher?"

Or is it because Kerry is quite appropriately grouped with all the other Democrats in the image (Daschle, Hillary Clinton, Feinstein, & Lieberman)? "Appropriately" - because all of them have typified, each in his own fashion, the spineless leadership of congressional Democrats in the last 3 years, who prostrated themselves before Bush, while he & his cabal were busy raping the country.

[jpgray]

1. Because TT has opinions and interprets events--like the rest of us (nt)

[absyntheNsugar]

2. Interesting story on that

Kerry purchased a signed lithograph of that very cartoon. Tom gave it to him for free, but signed it "Please prove me wrong."

I know I've said this before, but I honestly think Kerry regrets some of the votes hes made. I know he regrets IWR...and call me naive but I think the Dean campaign woke him up.

Expect a surprisingly liberal Kerry presidency. No constitutional ammendment banning gays from mutual love, and an end to the wars we've waged.

[onehandle]

3. Thank you. nt

[slinkerwink]

4. I doubt it.

[absyntheNsugar]

6. Slinker...you can't tell me Dean's run had NO effect on Kerry or Edwards

Check out their speeches before Dean gained momentum, and then afterwards. There is a huge difference, i.e. they grew cajones.

I was a Dean and Clark supporter and am still mourning their ending their candidacy. And I will admit Kerry's dirty campaigning left a bad taste in my mouth.

But my first and foremost goal is to get Bush out - and there has been a change in Kerry.

[MadHound]

16. Ab, I have no doubt Kerry is running to the left

But will he be allowed to rule from the left. Kerry strikes me in many ways like Clinton. A man who deep down is idealistic with a good heart. Unfortunately he has gotten caught in the monetary political machine, where having become a successful politician he has had to sell out his vote and influence to the highest bidder. Like Clinton, he talks well, and means well, but when push comes to shove, he will act as his backers wish him to act.

This is how we've come to the pass of having a Democratic president who could on one hand initiated a dialogue on gays in the military, yet with the other consigned well paying manufacturing jobs to countries with slave labor. This has always been part and parcel of American politics, but in the past fifty years we have had ever increasing corporate influence in our government. It has gotten far worse than the previous time this happened, the Gilded Age, from the end of the Civil War, culminating with the Great Depression. Republican or Democrat, it didn't matter, for both parties were bought and paid for.

The magnitude and influence of corporations in our government is on an unprecedented scale. And shame to say, but any politician who has attained the status that Kerry has will large debts to pay. Unless he is willing to take the hit for being a complete maverick, Kerry is going to change very little. I would love to be proven wrong,

[absyntheNsugar]

20. I'm sure you'll be proven wrong

Sure, he will cater to corporations - that's what politicians do. But more so than Clinton, he will get in some much needed reform. Clinton tried too much too soon - he tried to get health care past a congress that still didn't trust him.

Kerry knows Congress, and they owe him big favors. As a vetran Senator, he has made deals and like LBJ, being an insider will only help him get bills in that he wants. And one of those is Health Care reform.

[absyntheNsugar]

25. Here's the story

http://www.thismodernworld.com/weblog/mtarchives/week_2004_02_01.html#001313

[Cha]

5. That is quite a "flight of fancy"!

"And then we might be able to hang on to our jobs a little longer!"mushmellons!

[sangha]

7. If a cartoon doesn't prove your case

I don't know what will

[Guaranteed]

10. Look when it was made- before the war, even.

This is certainly nothing new.

Maybe you can remember back that far. Were you pleased?

[sangha]

12. It's a cartoon!

How could I possible dispute the credibility of a cartoon?

Cartoonists are authoritative and all cartoons are subjected to strictest accuracy guidelines.

[Guaranteed]

17. How did you feel about our leadership on 11/7/02?

Just take a guess.

[sangha]

22. I don't consider politicians to be leaders

so I'm not sure how to answer that question

[mitchum]

11. HAHAHAHA!!!

Greatest post ever. I really mean that.

[thingfish]

14. LOL!

Plonk

[RetroLounge]

8. Tom Tomorrow is obviously just a half-assed martyr

from the Dean campaign...

<sarcasm off>

[oasis]

9. Helloooooo 9/11 happened. Just a tiny detail TT forgot to mention. (eom)

[goobergunch]

19. It's copyrighted post-9/11 (n/t)

[oasis]

21. That's my point. The events of 9/11 had a considerable amount of

influence on all members of congress. How many Republicans would have voted for the Patriot Act before 9/11?

[Chicago Democrat]

13. Our leaders are cowardly and "diplomatic"

because we now live a bigoted, violent, intolerant, police state of a country that is freaked out of its collective minds, always needing a new "enemy", and prone to latching on to wacky religious groups that promote hateful and xenophobic ideas.

So don't blame the good honest leaders if they are a bit "shell shocked"; this is war.

[lojasmo]

15. You nailed it.

"because Kerry is quite appropriately grouped with all the other Democrats in the image (Daschle, Hillary Clinton, Feinstein, & Lieberman)? "Appropriately" - because all of them have typified, each in his own fashion, the spineless leadership of congressional Democrats in the last 3 years, who prostrated themselves before Bush, while he & his cabal were busy raping the country?"

Good work. TT rocks.

[corporatewhore]

18. hes an evil bush enabler just like willie nelson

(sarcasm off)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

23. Wow Tom is right. I changed my mind. If I vote for Kerry I will be

getting more of the same. If I vote for someone else they won't get elected. Think I'll just sit this one out like the 50% of the population that does anyway. You are right. It is hopeless. Oh and yes, I voted for Kucinich in my state's primary becasue I fundamentally agree that a change is necessary whether he stands a snowball's chance in hell of getting elected.


But you are right and nothing will change how right you are. The other 27 years of his career don't matter. It's what he did the last three.

FUck, even in criminal murder trials, there are character witnesses that appear on behalf of individuals likely to be punished for their last act but their past is taken into account...glad to know the criminal justice system has aspects that are more equitable than those polarized in this debate.

Fuck my side...I give up.


Just a minor question...are you committed at all to getting rid of Bush? Just wondering.

[mikehiggins]

26. Get rid of Bush? Sure. But does that mean we should shut our eyes

or turn off our brains and march mindlessly into the ranks of the Kerry Korps?

The cartoonist has a valid point, and yeah, Kerry did a lot of good things in the past BUT there is that pesky war thing to consider.

I'll be sure to vote for him in November if he does get the nomination as seems likely to happen.

That doesn't mean I have to like it, or think that it will accomplish anything better than getting Bush out of office. Fortunately, that will be enough for me so I'm in a win, win situation, unless Kerry manages to blow his campaign.

Tom Tomorrow is THE man!

[Dr Fate]

27. I like him, but he bashed Gore in 2000...

...we dont need Republicans the MEDIA AND the far left attacking DEMS in 2004...

[KittyWampus]

24. Because Comix Engage In Broad Generalizations

and sterortypes.