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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:29 PM
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What a great debate!
Wow! just wow!!!
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:31 PM
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1. was just about to post
Another great night to be a democrat! They all did us proud. :)
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:34 PM
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3. ....It really annoyed me the way Kerry was addressing Dennis
especially when he simply ignored Dennis' why question regarding Iraq.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:37 PM
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5. Dennis very rudely jumped into his answer.
Edited on Thu Feb-26-04 10:39 PM by TheDonkey
he was right to ignore him.

DK should have waited until JK was finished as he had a reasonable concern.
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truizm Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:43 PM
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10. Bullshit
He wasn't given that opportunity tonight and you know it. When Dennis did raise important issues (while being interupted by King or someone else) in a "non-rude" way, both Kerry and Edwards simply ignored him.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:37 AM
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28. Dennis was effective when he
was relaxed and not butting in but remaining policy/issue oriented. Plus Dennis has a great instinct when he remains positive. He can radiate great emotion, and this is when he is most compelling.

I know its frustrating not to have equal time, I would just say that it will increase when he does well this Tuesday.
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HuskerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:32 PM
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2. Rev. Sharpton should be in every debate from here to the end of time
Love that guy.
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Waverley_Hills_Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:42 PM
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9. Sharpton was pretty good.
I think he makes some excellent points.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:36 PM
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4. The Best Debate in US History!!!
Seriously, I am so happy.

Cheers my beloved fellow Democrats. We all be looking great tonight.

John Kerry - What a charming, thoughtful, civilized man. Tonight he reminds me of FDR.

John Edwards - Fought hard tonight with honor. The epitome of Southern Gentility with teeth.

Al Sharpton - Knows he's going to loose, but still remains relevent. I loved how he turned the debate around and pressed the two senators on issues like NAFTA

Dennis Kucinich - His best showing yet. Not shrill. Reasoned and mature; seriously using the time to illustrate all the candidates opinions.

God Bless The Democratic Party

God Bless CNN and Larry King
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:38 PM
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7. Agreed. All 4 are national treasures.
This is an incredible party.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:46 PM
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12. Not the best in history, but it was good.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:37 PM
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6. Much better format--they actually gave DIRECT answers to some questions
All the guys did great, but Al and Dennis as usual steal me on these issues. Kerry and Edwards both gave some great answers as well.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:40 PM
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8. I know, thank goodness! Direct answers!!!
:) :) :)
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:44 PM
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11. Yeah, right!
Good debate if you don't want to hear Kucinich. Did he actually get a chance to talk? Fuck the whole system!
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:47 PM
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14. On the contrary,
I thought he did great and am thinking of voting for him.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:46 PM
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13. Democrats must insist on unstructured debate formats!
It is apparently the only way to get to issues.

Fuck ABC, FOX all of them.

Larry King must run all the debates from now on!
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angryinoville Donating Member (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:50 PM
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15. Larry King barely...
let Dennis talk. I'm glad to hear you'll vote for him though. Let's mobilize the vote for a true progressive!
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:45 PM
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19. Now that its a toss up between
Kerry and Edwards; with Edwards winning the South and splitting the rest with Kerry. Kucinich all of the sudden becomes viable. There is no doubt; Kucinich will do >10% in most states and may gain 20% on Super Tuesday.

Now that we have such strong candidates all around; I feel safer to vote my own conscience. I gave Kucinich and Clark money. But I like, no I LOVE, all the candidates this year! This is an historic moment.

I wish I had money to give to them all.
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diamondsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:54 PM
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22. NO! No Larry King!
Ok, now that we've all seen how the standard media tries to ignore Kucinich and Sharpton....

I think we should get MIKE MALLOY to moderate the next one!:evilgrin:
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mountainvue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:58 PM
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16. Great debate.
Kucinich shone on healthcare, Sharpton on inner city issues, Edwards on being Edwards and Kerry on Haiti. Can you see Shrub giving an answer like that on Haiti?
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:08 AM
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26. "Edwards on being Edwards?"
ouch.
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AgadorSparticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 10:58 PM
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17. God bless Al Sharpton and Dennis Kucinich
They are there to give voice to all the unpopular things that Edwards and Kerry cannot touch. Love, Love, Love them both.

WOW is right on! I very much enjoyed watching this debate. Much more unified and to the point. It is nice to see commradery (sp?) and mutual respect despite differences. It makes me feel better about the state of our party and puts me at ease knowing that our candidates are all working together instead of against each other.

I've never been prouder to be a democrat.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:53 PM
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21. Love, Love, Love
There's nothing you can do that can't be done.
There's nothing you can sing that can't be sung
There's nothing that you can do that can't be there with you me inside
Its easy

All you need is Love
All you need is Love
All you need is Love, Love
Love is all you need

There's nothing that you can make that can't be made
There's noone that you can save that can't be saved
There's nothing that you can do that can't be there with you me inside
Its easy


All you need is Love
All you need is Love
All you need is Love, Love
Love is all you need


There's nothing that you can know that can't be known
There's nothing that you can see that can't be shown
There's nothing that you can do that can't be there with you me inside
Its easy

All you need is Love
All you need is Love
All you need is Love, Love
Love is all you need
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:17 PM
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18. I wish they had one of these touchy-feely sitdowns when Dean was the
frontrunner. The format for the last two debates before Iowa both allowed each candidate to ask a question of any of the other candidates. The debates devolved into most candidates joining the mods attacking Dean for every thing they could think of. I think the Iowa debate two nights before the caucuses was when Dean lost the nomination. It was non-stop attacks on Dean, including Sharpton using the repug-supplied attack of Dean not having any blacks in his cabinet. Dean's performance was poor that night.

Is it just a coincidence that once Kerry became the frontrunner they dropped the format of the candidates questioning each other?
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:56 PM
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23. They only did the question-answer thing once
or very rarely. I wouldn't get the aluminum foil out yet.
:tinfoil:
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:52 PM
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20. this is why a two-man debate between Kerry and Edwards would suck....
without Kucinich and Sharpton in the debates to give us needed breaks from all those polled and tested one-liners being given by Kerry and Edwards, who would bother tuning in?
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RichM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-26-04 11:59 PM
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24. Sorry, but you're all nuts. This debate stunk, & it's pitiful you don't
all realize it.

The moderator & "journalists" (a.k.a. whores for the Establishment) were disgraceful. They did their damnedest to entirely exclude from the "debate" the only two guys who actually had something to say.

The front-runner is a droning bore, who still defends his cowardly vote on IWR, & played a childish word-game about the 40,000 troops.

To be pleased with this "debate," you must have set the bar very, very low.
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ordentros Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:08 AM
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25. ;-)
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 12:11 AM
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27. Didn't Sharpton compliment
the frontrunners for allowing them to participate? I thought Kucinich and Sharpton together got about 33% Kerry/Edwards got about 66%; that was because there were important differences between Kerry and Edwards on NAFTA, Haiti and Iraq vote; that needed addressing. Sharpton and Kucinich agree on most issues; they are like a tag team now it seems.

Do you think for one minute Bush is going to allow anything like what occurred tonight when he faces our precious nominee! Be happy that the Democratic Party actually -is- a big tent and we get to have a real contest still! I am so excited. I want Kucinich to surge ahead (Edwards too). I'm gonna vote for Dennis; I bet he will do well in California and New York.

For no other reason that the reason Sharpton said tonight. To influence the platform, to keep Kerry or Edward accountable to the left side of the party. WHICH IS CRITICAL THIS YEAR FOR A WIN.

Nader has made that even more so. So please forgive our frontrunners, and keep your grief all in the family fellow progressive.

regards.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 01:40 AM
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29. good lord...were you watching the same debate I was?!
I agree with Rich M...this was the worst piece of so called debate & discussion I've seen so far...ever.

They should have been seated at a round table- not that stupid oblong thing...it was all so blatant & manipulated to showcase Kerry ...the moderating by King was a joke.( Excuse me Larry- this is not your show where you get to ask idiotic questions of your guests...or fluff questions & then insult them.)

These guys all have been working thier asses off and they get treated like a celebrity that this asshole King is trying to squeeze out a juicy littel tidbit of gossip. :puke:

Kucinch who always has substance was bascially ignored and marginalized then insulted by King.

Kerry is such a good politican he ended up saying nothing.

I really really want to like Edwards but basically don't agree with him on too many things that are important to me.

Thank god for Sharpton & especially Kucinich....

I can't belive anyone thought there was anything of substance discussed here tonite by the two frontrunners....sos IMHO

Peace
DR
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