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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:09 AM
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DNC approved the Nevada "at large" caucus precincts and Harry Reid was involved
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:12 AM by ursi
and all candidates had input and it was approved by the State Party. Read this from someone involved:

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Derby is silent, which is good for now and John Hunt in not commenting which is very bad, because appearances have his fingerprints and a lot of fingerprinting toward him all over this tonight. He needs to speak up soon as Clark Chair and CEO.

Those Foley tried to purge were allowed to participate and almost all were put back on. I assisted several in getting back on, and nothing would have affected outcome during the Collins to Derby transition.

We adopted the rules in March and have been fine tuning since. The eboard had issues at times, I and others questioned the wisdom of same day, and still do, and us returning registrations to the County. We never settled how we're going to handle those same-days, and I want us to return them to the voter and let them mail 'em after we take their info. Others don't care how we handle that.

The actual sites, where they are located and who would be running them, was done by staff with each of the campaigns, and the eboard and SCC signed off afterward. No one was left out.

I frankly don't think we have enuf delegates for the Strip, and it has always been our intention to accept all comers.

Does that present challenges? of course it does. That regular lay folks won't be running the at-large Strip sites was a good decision as all are welcomed to poll watch 'em and keep an eye on everyone else.

This whole effort is a party meeting of gigantic logistical effort and expense, it is not an election....will there be glitches...yes...will there be nine Strip sites yes, because we are bound to the criteria and formulas we presented to our authorizing body, the DNC, which approved it all. yes, they approved it all and so did we.

We can't change the rules in the 11th hour because feelings are hurt, endorsements didn't go they way some thought, or because people now have some operational issues.

All you had to do was speak up, to me, or anyone else and I'm looking today at 4 SCC meetings with unanimous support in 2007...those matters not before the entire SCC were discussed and delved into by the Eboard and this is the final product kids.

It will be what it will be on 1/19, and we need your help to run the damn thing and that's tough to do sitting in the Sawyer Fed Bldg on matters already long ago settled.

Posted by: MikeZ | 01/12/2008 at 07:56 PM

http://www.lasvegasgleaner.com/las_vegas_gleaner/2008/01/and-now-for-a-w.html#comments

more here ...



We are following the IA imposed on us by the DNC. The Strip sites were the brianchild of Harry Reid and Tom Collins. This is their baby albeit with colic and a diaper full of shit tonight

The Strip sites were the single most important thing in this whole process for NV's Organized Labor....they were ALL on board with the concept at the launch of the Nevada Caucus Commission and Harry and Tom cheer lead the idea... and now because the state's biggest and most powerful union didn't go the way some of the other unions wanted them to go, or the way Tom and Harry wanted them to go, now they're complaining and have damaged the candidates they prefer one week before zero hour.

Every Dem politician in the state supported the Strip sites. Every single one of them, so don't let 'em bullshit 'ya.

This is fact, there was no dissent.

Posted by: MikeZ | 01/12/2008 at 09:45 PM

I want to remind everyone that Tom Collins is the guy who signed the deal with Faux News last year for the Democratic presidential debate that never happened.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:13 AM
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1. whoa! k&r
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:16 AM
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2. Nothing to see here, folks. Pay no attention to the (wo)man behind the curtain!
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:16 AM by Yael
edit for spelling
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:16 AM
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3. O.M.G.
well, there ya go.... it'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:26 AM
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4. Nevada only has around 25 delegates.
This is petty bullshit.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:33 AM
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5. If the DNC approved it ...then it went through a complete process
Hillary cried so now it is an issue
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:41 AM
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6. Thank you Ursi
You are doing such a tremendous service. I hope you are posting on Kos, MYDD, and other sites as well.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:01 AM
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10. I refer you to post #7.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:09 AM
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11. I refer you to your rose colored glasses
which you admiringly gaze at Hillary's ass through.
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kikiek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:12 AM
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12. Don't you ever let those facts get in the way! You go!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:15 AM
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14. The facts are as clear as day
I am shocked, really shocked, that so many DUers could wilfully deny all the shit that has gone on in the last couple of weeks.
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spooky3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:44 AM
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7. read the lawsuit rather than blogger posts
among the allegations are that changes were made in OCTOBER 2007, and at other times, well past the March 2007 date on which the State party approved it and well past the August date where the national party signed on.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:49 AM
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8. that's too funny ...I'm thinking the judge will throw it out!
He will say he doesn't have jurisdiction! Or something like that!
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:58 AM
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9. The location isn't the big point of the suit
Other caucuses in Nevada will get an average of 6 delegates. The 9 casino caucuses will get an average of 80 each. The teachers union claims culinary workers get 10 delegates for every one teachers get.

I haven't seen anybody say yet that the teachers signed off on that, or when the delegate apportionment was decided.

Some of the comments on those websites make it appear that this is a fight between unions for who will be top dog. Nothing directly connects the suit to Hillary. Nothing but the usual Hillary hater guilt by association.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:14 AM
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13. This has been in the works since at least Dec 06
The reason there is a caucus in Nevada is Harry Reid and Unions. Harry Reid's son is Hillary's Nev campaign chair. They always expected to get the unions.

There was no problem until 2 days after the Culinary Union endorsed Obama.

The Teachers Association is bringing the lawsuit. The Executive Director organizes a Nevada women's group for Hillary. Braley, a congressman, has endorsed Hillary and it's his law firm that is bringing the suit.

If that doesn't add up to you, I don't know what will.

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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:32 AM
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15. The deputy executive director doesn't run the union
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:32 AM by creeksneakers2
If she did, the union would have endorsed Hillary. Law firms don't bring suits. Plaintiffs do. Both of these people could be acting independently.

The timing of the suit is suspicious but its not unusual for lawyers to make a strategic decision to file a lawsuit at the last minute. The more telling fact would be when they started drawing up the suit, not when they filed it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:39 AM
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16. She's the director of the Teachers Association
Give me a friggin' break. I'm not even going to talk to people who deny this shit anymore. It's ridiculous.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:54 PM
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19. that is correct! BTW, I spoke to someone who was involved in this arrangement
from the beginning. Almost all of the single names on the lawsuit were in the room and voted. The teachers assn. was also involved.

This is a political reaction to the Culinary Union endorsement. The Hillary camp is up to their games. Hillary wants her way, by golly! You all need to just give her the White House NOW!!

:cry:
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:59 PM
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20. Some teachers are also objecting to being unable to caucus
They have to work caucus locations, but aren't allowed to caucus at those locations, because their assigned place is different.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:45 PM
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17. Not only Reid (officially neutral) but some of the PARTIES TO THE SUIT!!!:
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 04:49 PM
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18. Reid can't be neutral now, this whole thing was his idea!
Give Nevada back it's primary!!! The whole damn state has people working on Saturdays doing shift work in mining and hospitality industries!
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