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Brian_Expat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 06:47 AM
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Kerry supporters, I'm now nominally in your camp
And it's not because of what Kerry has said, it's because of what Bush has said and done in the past week. Frankly, I'd rather have a rotten turnip in office than Bush, and a lot of other DFAers are now agreeing. John Kerry, despite what I think of him, is certainly superior to a rotten turnip, hence my vote in the GE.

It doesn't mean you can take us for granted or that we'll go along with everything you stand for, but you can probably count on our votes this election. After the election though, we're going to have, ehrm, a "discussion." :-)
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:07 AM
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1. I can certainly relate to that one.
Although I must say, after watching the latest debate, I felt damned good about all of 'em. My guy's gone (Dean) but I think I'd find any of them acceptable at this point. And did you hear what Sharpton said - about all this muck-with-the-Constitution crap? How, as long as we're focusing on one of the commandments (marriage), how 'bout we come up with amendments for ALL the commandments - like "for presidents that lie?" Don't know what I loved more - that comment, in and of itself, OR the roar of audience approval. "Roar" would be a very good word to describe it, too. It was easily one of the biggest cheers of the night. If not, indeed, THE biggest.

I'll be supporting one of two people: WHOEVER, or WHOMEVER is our nominee. Period. But then again, I'm one of those "Baloney Sandwich Democrats." I heard that description from someone else here - I'm just putting it in quotes. It means I'd vote for a Baloney Sandwich before I'd vote for bush. ABB. And if it sorts out to be Kerry, then fine. I'm there.
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CWebster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:16 AM
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2. If you are going to frame it as nominally
I would have to say that I would lean more toward Kucinich's camp, if any, out of the remaining candidates.

Kerry may have insider status, establishment endorsement and media assistance- the NYTimes slobbers at his feet, but he offends me to the core. Kerry represents the essence of that priviliged status quo politician that we have been roused to oppose for their complicity and inaction. Bush may be as bad as it gets, but Kerry signals limited compromise. The ruling elite may recognize that Bush has to go, but they are even more terrified of threats to business as usual. Dennis keeps the heat on while they attempt to marginalize him, while they attempt to dismiss him, laugh at him, ignore him. Ever notice he gets the most positive audience response in these debates? The powers that be can't allow that to get out as a widely accepted viability.

Kerry is a pompous ass, a most untalented and unattractive politician who has been set up as our choice. Under those circumstances, anyone could feasibly win. But when Kerry started his usual proclamation: "There was a right way to do it and a wrong way to do it", Kucinich quietly interjected, "What was the right way?" And he was absolutely right. There was no case, there was no "right way".

Dean may have represented the potential reality of an effective agent for change with broad appeal, but Kucinich carries the message of future promise. Kerry is the sellout we are forced to live with.



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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:25 AM
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3. This Is Good News... And A Very Positive Way To Look At Things, Brian.
That's the first time I've heard the criminal Bush* referred to as a "rotten turnip"... but it's certainly one that I'll try to repeat.

-- Allen
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TruthWins Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:33 AM
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4. Welcome Aboard eom
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 07:38 AM
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5. I can understand
I think it was an attack by republicans one day on television concerning Kerry and Clark after Clark's endorsement that pushed me in the Kerry camp. From that point forward, I was ready to engage the general election fight.
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-27-04 08:24 AM
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6. Rather than allow reactionary thinking to Bush
dictate that we have a rotten turnip leading the democratic party, I'd rather have democratic ideals give us principled leadership, even if it takes another four years.
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