How dare we

[mr715]

We are the Democratic party and I am ashamed that the media is portraying us as the party of racial division, because our candidates can't fight their own battles.

Hillary has not, nor will, say something racist.

Obama has not, nor will, say something sexist.

Hillary is no Martin Luther King. Barack Obama is no Lyndon Johnson (the analogy is increasingly more apt, too, which is getting bizarre).


Hillary needs to accept the fact that she is going to lose South Carolina and possibly Nevada and plan from there.

Obama needs to stop the double talk of the politics of hope and bipartisanship while slinging mud whenever he gets the chance.

Our politicians, I've said on this board again and again, are not Saints.

Who is worse? Neither. They are playing the same game, and its fucking shameful.

Clinton - stop trying to play winner and loser simultaneously.

Obama - grow up and fight real battles.


I'm a Clinton supporter.



M

[ursi]

1. I am ashamed of it. But I've seen this before ...

[sniffa]

2. "I'm a Clinton supporter."

I had no idea.

[mr715]

3. Really

My post is equally critical of both our major candidates.

[chascarrillo]

14. Ha!

Try reading your post again.

[mr715]

15. Do you see racism in the shadows?

Perhaps you should read my post again. I know my intent.

[chascarrillo]

16. Pick the worst thing you posted about Clinton and the worst you said about Obama. Post them below.

Thanks.

[mr715]

17. Okay

Who is worse? Neither. They are playing the same game, and its fucking shameful.

Clinton - stop trying to play winner and loser simultaneously.

Obama - grow up and fight real battles.




____

So Clinton is trying to sob and say she is winning and her path is the right one. At the same time, she is playing this game that excuses her surrogates.

Obama is taking stuff out of context and making mountains out of molehills. Prior to this game, Clinton polled better among African Americans than he, so he's playing a game here.

[chascarrillo]

20. I think you missed this quote:

"Obama needs to stop the double talk of the politics of hope and bipartisanship while slinging mud whenever he gets the chance."

And just a wee bit more negative than your worst Clinton criticism: "she's playing winner and loser". Oh, struck in the heart on that one.

Nice partisanship!

[mr715]

21. I didnt even think there was doubt about that

The fact is Obama is talking about clean politics and the campaign, on both sides, is effing filthy now

[chascarrillo]

29. So, the worst about Clinton is playing winner and loser, and Obama's a hypocrite who flings mud..

You, sir, are absolutely fair and objective.

[mr715]

30. Uh no

Tragically they are both being hypocrites.

End o' story. Can you acknowledge your candidate's hypocracy(sp)?) because I am acknowledging my candidates

[chascarrillo]

34. I do acknoweldge your candidate's hypocrisy.

nt

[mr715]

35. Well

Thanks for the spelling (haha its one of those words I never spell right)

But can you acknowledge that Obama is behaving hypocritically as well?

[JVS]

5. What gave it away?

[sniffa]

31. I think I posted what gave it away

And I don't even have to point out what in the OP makes it obvious, much less other threads and posts on this board.

[cynatnite]

4. Very well said...

I'm getting sick of how far both sides and their supporters are taking this. It's disturbing.

[gateley]

7. It's a waste of energy and time. We're ignoring the ISSUES that are facing us now. nt

[hayu_lol]

11. 714, it gives me great pleasure to see threads and posts of reasoned ...

statements. We have had a rough 3 or so weeks of really outlandish attacks. Is that not enough?

We had better start protecting our three candidates or we will lose them all...and the election as well.

Yeah, this outrageous post comes from a Hillary supporter. But I shall vote for our nominee without reservations.

[patrice]

6. MSM has gotta' go. nt

[mr715]

9. But it isnt (just) them

Clinton and Obama are fanning these flames because if voter turnout is lowered, it favors Clinton (hence Clinton's attacking). And Obama is trying to show off how much he can fight, even though he can;t, but inventing battles and then "winning" them

[patrice]

25. Yep. It does take at least 2 to tangle.

We'd just be so much more able to process our differences constructively if it wasn't for the f-ing Media Elites provoking so much BUSHIT!

[sandnsea]

8. Sounds like the mainstream media

Assign blame equally so you don't have to take a stand.

Obama has not slung any mud and has not said anything sexist.

Hillary did say something that was perceived by James Clyburn to come pretty close to racist.

Once we get the facts straight, it's easy to move forward.

[mr715]

10. Oh please

We know Clinton isnt racist.

[sandnsea]

18. Nobody said she was

What was said, by Clyburne, was that she needed to be a bit more cautious about her remarks. SHE said the Obama campaign was accusing her of being racist when they hadn't said a word.

[mr715]

19. I dont know

It seems out of character for her. She doesnt want to have a debate on race, so why bring it up at all?

I have a feeling this is Obamanufactured, which is no worse than what Clinton has done with her in IA and NH

[sandnsea]

22. You have a feeling?

Don't you base your opinions on facts?

[mr715]

24. Nope

Hence feeling. Call it intuition.

But if this was an election about "facts", it'd be a rout. I mean all elections are about feelings anyway.

[sandnsea]

26. You make slurs against people based on feelings?

Look. You've made a pretty nasty post full of pretty nasty accusations. You better be able to back up what you say with facts.

[mr715]

28. Do you question

that the Democratic party is currently busy destroying its own?

I'm saying GOOD things.

Clinton is not racist. Obama is not sexist. What I feel is grotesque is the fact that they are trying to make a divide where there really is none - because their records are identical

[chascarrillo]

32. You are saying good things.

Like "Obama needs to stop the double talk of the politics of hope and bipartisanship while slinging mud whenever he gets the chance."

Bwahaha. Dude, don't drink your own kool-aid.

[Deja Q]

12. What if a republican would say, or even would have said, 3, 5, 7, or 9 years ago,

"Is America ready for a black president?"

[mr715]

13. Are we talking

Alan Keyes?

[stillcool]

23. truth hurts...

there has been more than enough evidence that there is a racial divide, well, at least on DU. I wouldn't worry about it. If DU is in any way representative of the population, or the democratic party for that matter, there is no way in hell a bunch of bigots are going to vote for him, but have fun!

[butterfly77]

27. Some can't handle the truth...

its not just Du its the real world..

[stillcool]

33. I think some revel in their...

willful arrogant ignorance. They build up these false identities where they believe they are superior, due to the geographic location of their birth, the color of their skin, or their Jesus. I live in the real world, but I choose not to associate with this caliber of humanity.