Here comes more Kerry smear

[Rowsdower]

The pukes are at it again:

NUMBER ONE: KERRY RANKED 'MOST LIBERAL' IN SENATE ROLL CALL VOTES, TOPS KENNEDY, CLINTON

NATIONAL JOURNAL on Friday claimed Democrat frontrunner John Kerry has the "most liberal" voting record in the Senate.

The results of Senate vote ratings show that Kerry was the most liberal senator in 2003, with a composite liberal score of 96.5 -- far ahead of such Democrat stalwarts as Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton.

NATIONAL JOURNAL's scores, which have been compiled each year since 1981, are based on lawmakers' votes in three areas: economic policy, social policy, and foreign policy.

"To be sure, Kerry's ranking as the No. 1 Senate liberal in 2003 -- and his earning of similar honors three times during his first term, from 1985 to 1990 -- will probably have opposition researchers licking their chops," NATIONAL JOURNAL reports.

Developing...




This guy has too much baggage.

[KittyWampus]

1. Kerry Is Bush-Lite, Don't They Know That?

Jeez!

[liberalnurse]

9. kerry is indeed

*bush-lite......I know that and folks are getting to see the waffling act kerry preforms as dishwater weak rhetoric.

[KittyWampus]

14. Of Course, I Used Sarcasm But This Response To My Post

is good for comic relief and exemplifies the cognitive dissonance prevalent among many DU'ers.

[BeyondGeography]

17. That's it, give to Kerry from both sides

Reminds me of the Clark candidacy. He'd get hammered by the pundits for being recklessly anti-Bush by day. And in the dark of night our own crowd would call him a Republican.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

38. Kerry's used to recieving fire from both sides:

“The man was receiving sniper fire from both banks. Lt. Kerry directed his gunners to provide suppressing fire, while from an exposed position on the bow, his arm bleeding and in pain, with disregard for his personal safety, he pulled the man aboard...."

http://www.johnkerry.com/pressroom/releases/pr_2004_0117d.html :hi:

[polpilot]

42. Blam!!!!!! Blam!!!! Blam!!! Blam!!!!!! Blam!!! Blam!!!! Blam!!! Blam!!

Take that you #@$$%%&&&& Iraqis!!

[retyred]

67. Yes we all know

how liberal bush really is! The most liberal Democrat = bush-lite?



retyred in fla
“Good-Night Paul, Wherever You Are”
"The "ONLY" true Democrat from the Democratic wing of the Democratic Party"

So I read this book

[dd123]

83. Yeah my repub co-worker knows how I feel about Kerry

so she was telling me about the debate. Said she watched for an hour and couldn't figure out where he stood on anything.

Her description was that the moderators kept on trying to restate what he said because they weren't sure what his position was. He would come back saying that they were getting it wrong. Sounded hilarious to me, which is how she found it.

Of course I had to take her word for it since I can't stand seeing or hearing Kerry. Major repulsion there.

[flpoljunkie]

40. John Kerry's response to those who seek to smear him with "liberal" label

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uskerr283645552jan28...

As for being attacked as a liberal, Kerry said, "If being that means I want decent schools for people in the South; if being that means I want health care for every single American, and I want a system that makes sense; if being that means I want to balance the budget and be responsible fiscally and not leave our children with debt ... I'll take that anywhere in the country." - John Kerry

Give 'em hell, JK!

[BL_Zebub]

46. Great lines!

They were even better when they were spoken by a candidate who actually meant it.

[Eloriel]

74. Are there ANY lines of Dean's that he hasn't stolen?

What will he do if any new questions comes up, now that Dean isn't in the race any longer?

[flpoljunkie]

81. Dean's lines are no more original than Trippi's recycled slogan...

"Take back America" which both Richard Gephardt and Jerry Brown used in their Trippi managed campaigns.

We are now evidently seeing a rivalry developing between Trippi and Dean for the Deaniacs; it will be interesting to see who wins them over.

Trippi's new website, which discusses the Cummings Creek Compact:

http://www.changeforamerica.com/blog/

[littlejoe]

55. That is an irresponsible remark.

[BayCityProgressive]

2. No one

is going to care. I think people are sick of hearing the word liberal. He will do fine.

[Skittles]

22. Yes, the words TAX AND SPEND LIBERAL

of lost their meaning with our current fiscally irresponsible piece of shit "president".

[BigDaddyLove]

30. Tax and Spend Liberal..........

Thankfully Democrats have the sense to tax when they spend, knowing that for there to be spending, there has to be money to do it with.

Compared that is to Tax-cut and Spend Republicans.

[flpoljunkie]

41. Yes, for Shrub it's "tax cut and spend"... ours and our children's future

We must vote these corrupt, inept crony capitalist bastards out in November!

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[Rowsdower]

5. the more the public knows about Kerry....

the less they will like him and be inclined to vote for him. there's still time to do the right thing. dump Kerry, and get behind someone who can bring it home in November.

[TruthWins]

8. Yes, I think that's going to happen any day now. Right after March 2. n/

[chiburb]

34. And just who would that be?

In your opinion?

[chiburb]

37. Never mind, I see you support Edwards...

How did he do in your right-wing survey?

[liberalnurse]

66. Edwards can do this best.

[RegenerationMan]

7. With the jobs situation the swing vote will be looking for a liberal

I wrote Drudge and thanked him for letting the swing know Kerry is so liberal and has the strength of his convictions.

That's what people will be looking for this year! Drudge and the repubs are fighting the elections of the 80s and 90s.

Thanks, Drudge

IMAGINE PRESIDENT KERRY!

[liberalnurse]

12. I don't believe he is a hero.

I think kerry was a navy opportunist, for the photo op and resume building as his true mission. His purple hearts were for scrapes and bruises. He only missed 2 days of service and was up walking around....

Here....read for yourself from Viet Nam War Vets.....

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/page2.html

[bobbieinok]

15. isn't the leader of this right-wing smear group the man who

trashed McCain in 2000?

why should we believe anything this group might claim??

[mobuto]

23. The website belongs to a nut named Ted Sampley

who was convited of physically assaulting one of John McCain's aides. The guy is con artist, a pathological liar and one of the most worthless human beings around.

[trumad]

Uh huhh...liberalnurse

and you were there with his Band of Brothers? And you were there when he turned his Boat into enemy fire and took on the enemy in hostile fire... You were there? Really? So tell us liberalnurse, what really happened... You were there weren't you? I did read the stories of the vets who were with Kerry in those battles...They were there..were you? Now why would I beleive their stories more than your stories... They were there but I suspect that you were not.. SO..if you were not,,,where exactly are you getting your info from...Ann Coulter? Newt Gingrich??? Rush??? Tell us...were you there with Kerry or are you just gleaning your blah blah from Chickenhawk piece of shit sources?

[Cha]

70. This man has an interesting perspective

on kerry from the inside..
"FROM: S. Brian Willson ([e-mail])
TO: John Kerry ([e-mail])

"Dear John,"

"It has been a long time since we have had contact. As you might remember, our very first meeting was at VVAW's Dewey Canyon III, "A Limited Incursion Into the Country of Congress," April 19-23, 1971, in Washington, D.C. I'm sure you remember asking the Senate that week in an impassioned speech, "How do you ask a man to die for a mistake?" You also stressed the importance of being "totally nonviolent."

"Our second and many subsequent meetings occurred in Massachusetts after you were elected Lt. Governor, 1982-84, while I was active in veteran's issues in Western MA. As director of a veterans outreach center in Greenfield, and the Western Massachusetts Agent Orange Information Project, I served on the Massachusetts Agent Orange Task Force under Governor Dukakis' veterans commissioner and your office as Lt. Governor. I subsequently also served on Dukakis' homeless veterans task force."

"When you decided to run for the Senate in 1984 against Ray Shamie, a wealthy businessman, remember that I loyally supported your campaign as one of the dozen or so Vietnam veterans the press called Kerry's Commandos, you called "Doghunters." We accompanied you throughout the state, and fended off right wing criticism from folks such as General George Patton III, who accused you of "giving aid and comfort to the enemy" for your earlier VVAW activities. I'm sure you remember with fondness that critical time that launched you into national office. Your lawyer brother, Cameron, concluded that it was the veterans' support that pulled your first campaign out of a nose-dive and created the necessary "galvanizing energy."

"Your critics had suspected that your activities, both in the war, and in years following, were prompted, at least in part, to an intense political ambition, even as you addressed your Yale graduating class with an anti-Vietnam War speech shortly prior to enlisting in the U.S. Navy. Your career in the Senate has revealed your all-consuming ambition, but that is quite typical of politicians."

"The first hint of a bit of disconnect in your style was when during your first Senate campaign you denied returning your war medals, with a thousand other veterans, in protest of the war during Dewey Canyon III. That was a bit of a shock, since for most veterans who returned their medals in that emotional ceremony on Friday, April 23, 1971, it was a very proud and healing moment. Your 1984 campaign response: You had returned the medals of a WWII acquaintance at his direction. All those 13 years everyone thought you had had the courage and leadership to return medals that to veterans who returned them represented medals of dishonor drenched in the blood of innocent Vietnamese who did not deserve to die for a lie, any more than our fellow US Americans. I guess you knew then that you were to be running for office."

"The second hint occurred at the celebration party you organized for us "doghunters" at your friend John Martilla's Beacon Hill house in Boston in late June 1985, 6 months into your term as a junior Senator. In the wee hours of the morning, you made two comments that troubled me: (1) you stressed your initials as "JFK" that would help you one day in your quest for the White House, and (2) that after War Department briefings (and perhaps CIA as well) about the need for funding and training contra terrorists in Afghanistan and Nicaragua you had a new appreciation for their importance in furthering U.S. policies. That did not mean that you necessarily voted for Contra aid but that once in power, information becomes part of an elite circle preempting genuine democracy."

"I had driven in from Greenfield for that celebration party, and after those remarks I immediately left the party and drove the two hours home. I never forgot it, obviously."

"In late September 1986, you, along with some other Senators and Representatives, reluctantly supported the four veterans (myself being one of them) participating in the open-ended Veterans Fast For Life (VFFL) on the east steps of the Capitol building, protesting aid to the Contras. During that fast one of your fellow Senators, Warren Rudman (R-NH), stated in October 1986 that our "actions are hardly different than those of the terrorists who are holding our hostages in Beirut." Shortly thereafter, both our VFFL offices and separate housing accommodations were broken into with many files of our activities and addresses of supporters taken. The FBI initiated a "domestic terrorist" investigation of the members of the VFFL which was revealed later when an FBI agent refused to comply and was fired after nearly 22 years service in the agency."

"In September 1987, as you remember, I was severely assaulted by a US weapons train in Concord, CA, during a peaceful protest of a Pentagon munitions train moving lethal weapons to Central America, suffering permanent injuries. Later it was revealed that they suspected me of planning to "hijack" the train, and had accelerated the train 12 miles above the legal speed limit of 5 mph rather than stopping and awaiting police arrest."

"Such is life. Contra "terrorists" in Nicaragua called freedom fighters by US presidents, while nonviolent protestors of terrorist policies are labeled the "terrorists" to be investigated. Then look what happened with our terrorists, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan. Now the Congress is giving the resident of the White House virtual carte blanche authority to launch pre-emptive strikes against more evil lurking beyond our borders. It is a no-brainer to many outside the beltway that we are really experts at knowing how to create rage, then revenge, with our policies of aggression and arrogance."

"In the life of being a Senator, John, I'm afraid that your career again proves that power corrupts (and blinds), and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Of course you have many friends in the same camp."

"With your vote for essentially agreeing with the selected resident of the White House's request for incredible authority in advance to wage wars against whomever he wants, you have contributed to finalizing the last of the world's empires, and the likely consequent doom of international law, peaceful existence, and hope for the future possibilities of Homo sapiens. Of course, it also means that searching for the motivations of other people's rage and desperate acts of revenge will be overlooked, dooming us to far more threats and instability then if we had seriously pursued a single-standard in the application of international law equally with all nations in the first place. We are too much of a bully to do that, and have stated over and over again that the American Way Of Life is not negotiable. Can you understand that this means species suicide?"

"I'm sorry and terribly fearful for this state we are in. Your vote is terribly misguided, John. Now that veterans have reorganized throughout the nation as once again an important part of the growing movement, know that we shall work hard for your defeat, whether as a Presidential candidate or for another Senate term."

"Sincerely,"

"S. Brian Willson, Arcata, CA
Veterans For Peace"

[KittyWampus]

16. That Website Is A GOP Potemkin Village

Even when I was gunning for Clark against Kerry, I never used that garbage.

It SHOULD be beneath us.

[BeyondGeography]

24. You are officially confused

using a right-wing site to validate your own wishful thinking about John Kerry's incredibly heroic war record.

There's a 546-page book about it called Tour of Duty out right now by the respected historian, Douglas Brinkley. Read it, and you shall be saved.

[Monte Carlo]

25. I can't believe you are reading that website.

And then recommending it to others.

[Skittles]

26. liberalnurse, please tell me you are being sarcastic

that website is disgusting

[bowens43]

28. Wow! You buy into this right wing smear sight????

This brings your judgement and motives into question.

[King of New Orleans]

31. Not that MSnurse is interested

But here's what the people who were actually in Vietnam with Kerry have to say:

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/24/politics/campaign/24COMB.html

[liberalnurse]

65. The wounds speak for themselves.

He is an opportunistic politician.....reeks of resume' building.

[Clark4Prez]

72. So he got shot to build his resume'?

That's the biggest load of shit I have ever read here on DU. I expect it from the freepers, but anyone that calls themselves a liberal should know better. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeagggg!

The fact remains that Kerry fought for his country twice. Once when he went to serve and once when he came home he fought to end the war. And that was with Tricky Dick in the WH, for crying out loud. How exactly was that a resume' builder, huh LN?

How many times was Dean shot, or Edwards, or Bush/Cheney? None. None at all.

[King of New Orleans]

77. I knew you wouldn't be interested

didn't even read the story did you?

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[yowzayowzayowza]

44. You want to "turnhardleft" yet..

the most liberal voting record in the Senate is a problem for your? Ya, right. Keep on puken....

[Gringo]

4. There is nothing "liberal"

about former Goldwater girl Hillary Clinton.

[jeffsurfus]

Embrace your liberalness John

I am so sick of everyone painting liberal as a bad thing.

If being a liberal is "baggage", I'm packed for a VERY LONG TRIP.

[jeffsurfus]

6. dupe sorry

dupe sorry

[BayCityProgressive]

10. just because

Hillary doesn't vote Liberal on everything you may want her too, doesn't mean she isn't a liberal. Any rating group you look at will show her in the 90-95% liberal range.

[MaineDem]

11. If Liberal is "baggage"...

Oh well.

Welcome to DU just the same.

[DuctapeFatwa]

13. Kerry's supporters should have no trouble dispelling this kind of smear

Kerry supports the crusade, opposes a Living Wage, believes equal rights under the law should be an opt-in choice for states, and can be counted on to keep medical care a commercial product.

He is an excellent choice for voters who like bush's policies but find bush's manner crude and off-putting. Kerry is a much better speaker, much more telegenic, and a much shrewder politician.

[KittyWampus]

20. Damn Kerry For Voting For Life In The Real World

He should have stuck to Life in the Ideal World where opposition need never be confronted much less defeated.

[DuctapeFatwa]

29. Covering your song in a more harmonic key neither confronts nor defeats

you. It will, however, serve to fool a certain segment of the audience.

Fortunately, Kerry does not need the votes of crusade victims, or people who are being priced out of the housing market and who can't afford medical treatment. The first group are not eligible to vote in US elections, and the other two are more likely to not vote than to vote.

I am sure that one thing Kerry will provide more funds to states, nearly bankrupt by bush, so they can afford the extra law enforcement needed to lock the homeless up. Ragged, runny-nosed children lolling about in high traffic commercial areas is bad for business. This is another of Kerry's strong points. He is business-friendly.

The no tax breaks for outsourcers speech was brilliant! I saw people who have themselves been outsourced stand up and cheer! So great is Kerry's gift for language it still hasn't occurred to them that any company who just cut personnel costs by 90% could care less about a tax break.

[foo_bar]

39. harmonic relative to what?

Please clarify your florid doublespeak so we can compare it to Kerry's. I'm sure it's a lovely, dare I say baroque (not rococo!), turn of phrase. A certain segment of the audience may even be fooled.

[DuctapeFatwa]

43. bush is neither a gifted speaker nor charismatic

Kerry is a much better speaker than bush, and much more telegenic, with oratory talents that enable him to make even the most appalling and horrific aspects of US policy sound more palatable to affluent Americans.

While bush has botched things by being stingy with America's Iraq oil, Kerry knows that a little generosity can go a long way toward getting some European boots on the ground, and traditional Sunni-Shia rivalries can be used to very good effect to engage pro-American governments in the region to join America's sons and daughters in achieving US military goals and objectives.

This will be especially helpful in the liberation of Iran, and Kerry's strong Israel ties will avoid the risk of any quibbling over deploying America's Israeli resources to liberate Syria.

It's multilateralism. Instead of a situation where you have the US occupying, stealing, massacring, seizing peoples' wives and kids, by something as simple as giving allies a share of the loot, you can have people from LOTS of countries occupying, stealing, massacring, seizing peoples' wives and kids - and you can bet that those countries that are helping the US will put a lid on the anti-American talk!

[foo_bar]

47. counterpoint

I was seeking clarification of Kerry's "more harmonic key", as your analogy invokes a relationship. Is the status quo the tonic, and Kerry a consonant interval thereof? If so, what is his key "more harmonic" than? The ballad of the theoretical blue note candidate?

[DuctapeFatwa]

50. I mean that how things are presented is important. For example:

"Operation Let's kill the Iraqis and Steal Their Oil," while it may accurately reflect implementaion of policy, does not sound too good.

"Operation Iraqi Freedom" sounds much better.

I have every confidence that Kerry, with his considerable language skills, will be able to give it a much more attractive name.

Harmonic, even.

[foo_bar]

51. so it was an empty rhetorical flourish?

Recapitulating your prolix sermon in order to change the subject is precisely what you condemn (in others). So I ask: was your musical embellishment meant to be meaningful (as in, a "more harmonic key" than x, since the analogy necessitates comparison), or simply a rococo facade? Was the intention to "fool a certain segment of the audience" that doesn't see beyond arbitrary ornamentation?

[DuctapeFatwa]

53. He has a gift for saying things in a much nicer way than bush

That is a good talent for a politician to have, don't you think?

[foo_bar]

60. it's not hypocrisy, it's hypocrisy by example!

The beauty of sarcasm is never having to be wrong or right. It's Heisenberg in literary form: when you get called on bullshit it's really satire, when you aren't it was actually meant to be sincere.

[DuctapeFatwa]

61. I am quite sincere, and I have no reason to suspect that Kerry is not

Do you?

[foo_bar]

63. the word is 'insincere'

Ragged, runny-nosed children lolling about in high traffic commercial areas is bad for business. This is another of Kerry's strong points. He is business-friendly.

you can have people from LOTS of countries occupying, stealing, massacring, seizing peoples' wives and kids

Is it transparently false to commit the same rhetorical sins (flowery rococo allusions devoid of substance when pressed) attributed to the opposing faction? Of course not, in the trope of the sarcastic narrator; there is no opposing faction, nor attribution, when every fatwa is issued in mock sincerity from the strawman's perspective. To step out of the sarcastic-protagonist's shoes by calling the aforementioned rhetoric "sincere" is to confess a fabric of lies no smaller than the totality of all things mock-advocated here to date.

[DuctapeFatwa]

69. I do not advocate Kerry, nor do I agree with the status quo policies

he is pledged to maintain.

Nor do I question his sincerity, nor his shrewdness, nor his ability to make them sound better than bush does.

If you are asking a question, I hope I have answered it.

[ozone_man]

71. How about "Progressive Internationalism"?

Sounds a bit nicer than PNAC, don't you think?

[littlejoe]

58. If that is what you think, then you know very little of John Kerry.

What's more. I get the distinct impression that you have little interest in knowing the truth about John Kerry.

[DuctapeFatwa]

62. It is available on his website, and he is on TV articulating his positions

quite frequently.

He supports the crusade, and believes he can do a better job of running it than bush.

He is opposed to a Living Wage, and favors empowering low income workers to use their cash on hand to purchase medical treatment, and get an extra tax break at year's end.

He is in no danger of being accused of advocating socialized medicine.

Are you suggesting he is lying?

[littlejoe]

73. Well, Fatwa, one out of three would get you a major league baseball

contract, but on this thread, not even an "atta boy"!

[Padraig18]

18. This would be the same sen. Kerry who trumpets his 'Wellstone record'?

He can't have it both ways, my friend. If he wants to trumpet his "My voting record is closest to Paul Wellstone's" line to pander to the left, then he has no right to object when that fact is turned against him.

[WiseMen]

52. He doesn't object

[littlejoe]

59. Kerry simply pointed out that he and Paul Wellstone

joined forces to legislate campaign financing.

If you want to hear about someone trumpeting something ad nauseum, how about Edwards talking about feeling workers pain, because he grew up the son of a poor mill worker. As if he was the ONLY candidate that knows about economically depressed areas.

Talk about trying to start a class warfare from inside the party!!!

I wish I had a penny for every time I've heard him say that same old tired line.

[Cuban_Liberal]

80. It's not what *KERRY* says that frosts so many people here

What frosts so many of us here at DU are the lame-assed attempts by certain Kerry supporters to try and drape the memory of Sen. Wellstone over every post they make about their candidate. There is simply no evidence whatsoever that Sen. Wellstone would have supported a Kerry candidacy in '04--- NONE.

In light of MANY of Kerry's most prominent votes, it is far more likely that Sen. Wellstone would have been a primary opponent of Sen. Kerry's, rather than a supporter. Barring a run of his own, it is STILL more likely that he would have supported a candidate like Kucinich, Dean or Clark--- people who opposed the war.

THAT is why so many of us laugh at all the Kerry/Wellstone posts.

Clear that up for ya, did it?

[glarius]

19. They should look up"liberal" in the dictionary....It defines wonderful

characteristics....Just a few...advanced, broad-minded, enlightened, flexible, free, progressive, unbiassed.....all good things humans should aspire to....It is SO DUMB that Republicans have decided liberal is a dirty word....

[jpgpenn]

21. Did ya expect anything less?

Be prepared for much more of this. It's the way repukes win elections. Slight problem this time around, *Bush is toast!

[bowens43]

27. Smear? More like something to brag about!

baggage? Hardly. LIberal isn't a dirty word.

[KC21304]

32. You're right about one thing. The pukes are at it again.

Right here. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=post&forum=132&topic_id=405598&mesg_id=405598

[Sparkle]

33. It's only baggage to extreme conservative pricks out there.

There is nothing wrong with being a liberal. Better a liberal president than a conservative one.

[corporatewhore]

45. hes a liberal alright ..a NEOLIBERAL

[West Coast Democrat]

48. Kerry doesn't have too much baggage

He's got a lot of experience, and nothing too controversial for the Republicans to jump on.

[Jawja]

49. Yep. "Kennedy" and "Clinton"

are GOP buzzwords. The "Hanoi John" tag didn't get anywhere, so now they are going to stitch him to Senators Kennedy and Clinton in an effort to scare moderate independents and Repugs who might stray into thinking they would be voting for a commie pinko socialist as they erroneously perceive two of our best Senators.

:puke:

[Jackpine Radical]

54. "This guy has too much baggage."

Most liberal? That's baggage? Keep talking. You're helping me overcome my aversion to DLC Kerry.

[littlejoe]

56. Kerry can handle anything they throw at him. Besides, didn't

you know that even if we ran Zell Miller, they would still try to paint him as a liberal, simply because he is a democrat?

[Waverley_Hills_Hiker]

57. Kerry does have a very liberal voting record.

Although he did vote for NAFTA and the war resolution his lifetime voting record is pretty liberal as per some advocacy groups.

The Americans for Democratic Action, or ADA, which is a liberal group, ranks Kerrys lifetime average as 92 vs Kennedys 90.

http://www.adaction.org/lifetimesenmassachusetts.html

[Kimber Scott]

64. "Liberal" is not a bad word

and everytime a conservative uses it in a condescending manner we should make it known. Again and again and again. When people complain to me about this liberal, or that liberal, the first thing I do is ask them what a liberal is. You'd be surprized how many people don't even know!

I call for a campaign for equal rights for all liberals!

:bounce:

[blondeatlast]

68. Damn! Kerry just sealed my vote (provided DK isn't the nominee). nt

[Digit]

75. POW-MIA Coverup

I am concerned by this article I happened upon in the Village Voice. I guess my curiousity got the best of me when I read the headline and I don't know how I managed to get sucked in by this junk.
I know somebody out there can set me straight as I don't REALLY think Kerry could do this.
http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0408/schanberg.php

[Digit]

76. I feel better

I found more info in the Articles Forum.
Just pure trash.
Sorry for passing it on, but it was in the interest of damage control.

[mobuto]

82. There was no coverup

There was no credible evidence at all that there were any POWs left in Vietnam. Kerry and McCain and others looked closely at the evidence - but there was simply nothing there. What this was about was a few con artists - Ted Sampley and his ilk - manipulating the emotions of families of missing vets to con them out of their money.

I know somebody out there can set me straight as I don't REALLY think Kerry could do this.

He didn't.

[molly]

79. Most liberal, huh? All DU needs to see this