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Tue Jan-15-08 11:15 AM
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The Dem Debate Tonight - Predictions?......... |
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My prediction is that the big three candidates will be falling all over each other to be the first to create the "Kumbaya" moment that will get them face time on news channels and newspapers tomorrow. A pissed off Dennis Kucinich will point out that while the big three are bickering about gender and race - the important issues are not being addressed. Then Russert will ask Dennis if he's seen any UFO's lately or if he campaigned in Roswell.
Did I miss anything?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:16 AM
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1. GE won't let Kucinich debate - GE won't let me watch... |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:19 AM
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4. Since you are such a fan, can you explain to me why K. gives interviews to Fox? |
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"Kucinich learned of the judge's decision when he was handed a note during an interview with Fox Business Network's Neil Cavuto."
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:23 AM
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13. Kucinich is frozen-out by so much of the corporate media that he |
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must take any opportunity he can to be heard. Also, the rest of the corporate media treat Kucinich the way Fox treats the other Democrats, so, to Dennis, there isn't a great deal of difference. How's that?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:26 AM
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20. Heard on Fox? He is used there for a comic relief... |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:32 AM
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25. It is this kind of fucked-up condescension that will drive a good many |
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progressives from the party. I don't understand the tactic...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:34 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:36 AM
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30. So it's good to hear that you don't want our vote. Because you |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:43 AM
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37. I know. You will write in Kucinich -- so why should I care? |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:25 AM
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17. FOX uses him to show how "kooky" Democrats are. |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:28 AM
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21. What's sad, is that right-wing Democrats get to say who's "kooky" |
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and who's not. It is sad that a real FDR Democrat is called "kooky" by someone claiming to be a Democrat. The condescension is laughable...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 AM
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27. Thinking K. is "kooky" makes one "right wing"? Is this a new litmus test? |
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Since 2% of Dems support him in the polls, 98% are thus all "right wingers"? Excellent!
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:36 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:39 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:20 AM
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5. Last I Heard Is Dennis Is Back In - But GE Is Going To Appeal And The Judge...... |
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says he will issue an injunction and stop the debate if Kucinich is left off.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:52 AM
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43. This is the important issue being overlooked by us all. |
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The whole last minute incident may be a game manipulated by the corporate-elite M$M so that in the end we won't have a debate. They don't want either Edwards or Kucinich to be heard. I know Edwards could use a debate performance for public exposure as he has been shown in a recent poll to be neck to neck with C. and O. in Nevada and could overtake them if he does well in the debate.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:20 AM
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6. I am assuming that GE will manage by tonight to exclude Dennis. |
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If not I will watch and listen ...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:47 AM
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40. You can always watch Fox... He'll be there! |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:18 AM
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2. Tonight is going to be a curious night. |
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I think Obama (who is not the best debater) will come out of his shell. Hillary might too. Edwards is probably going to attack Hillary and Barack.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:20 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:34 AM
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She will attack? Come out of her shell? What?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:47 AM
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41. Edwards will attack just Hillary |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:19 AM
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3. I hope to goodness that the moderators will stick to the ISSUES. |
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But, unfortunately, they want a fight. They can't help themselves to bring up race and gender.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:21 AM
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8. Obama will take off the gloves on Iraq and healthcare |
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Edwards will back him up again.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:25 AM
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15. I agree - "Kumbaya" on MLK and race and then both attack Hillary w/ Dennis getting few words in |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:28 AM
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22. and you think three of (male) them attacking Hillary will help whom? |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:25 AM
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16. Because it's not just "they" who want a fight but so does Edwards, and just with Hillary, |
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which will look ugly again if he does it.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:40 AM
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36. My spouse decided to vote for HRC because of JE's remark about her "crying." |
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He was undecided between the 2 of them but said he couldn't vote for JE after what he said. He thought it was a sexist thing to say. I must say I was disappointed in JE's remark, too. If I had a chance to talk to him I would challenge him on the remark, or at least ask him to clarify what he meant...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:22 AM
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9. it will suck because any voice for peace is excluded |
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did you notice that everyone who openly called for an end to war is out?
Not because of what People think, but what People who Program People think.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:23 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:26 AM
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:23 AM
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10. Kooch will throw hand grenades into the flower-arranging session |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:31 AM
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23. Great -- that's exactly what I would hope for ... if I were a Republican. |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 AM
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26. "If I were a Republican" LOLOLOLOLOL! |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:37 AM
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32. so are you saying taht if K. is not my candidate I AM a Republican? |
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I already know that, according to you, that makes me "a right-wing" Democrat but I guess that's not bad enough.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 AM
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45. Why do people still think it's effective to make nice? |
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We have had seven years to try the polite approach. IT DOES NOT WORK.
If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got. Swing for the testicles, repeatedly.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:23 AM
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11. Sorry global 1 but you must of missed the description about |
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Edwards-his angry. And Damn well he should be. As we speak right now I'm not sure if Treasury Secretary is alive. It has been reported on Worldreport.org that he is dead. Let's hope this is a rumor and that Henry Paulson is keeping it together.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:26 AM
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18. Not being "snarky", but what are you talking about? |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 AM
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47. I Don't Understand What You Are Talking About?..... |
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what's this about the Treasury Secretary? What about worldreport.org?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:23 AM
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14. I think you nailed it. |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:31 AM
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24. "Did I miss anything?" |
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Gravel getting the most applause?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:37 AM
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33. The hillary supporters will she say was the most |
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Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:38 AM by Bread and Circus
amazing thing ever, the Obama supporters will say he was the most amazing thing ever, and the Edwards supporters will say he was the most amazing thing ever.
The pundits will talk about how Hillary "held her ground", how Obama will seem less than stellar, and how Edwards tried to gangbang Hillary.
The public at large (all 15 of them watching) will say Kucinich won even though he will have had about 17 seconds of microphone time.
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:39 AM
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35. Don't forget that the Clinton supporters will also say that anyone who |
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doesn't support their candidate is stupid. That seems to be the gist of it...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:45 AM
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39. I think we all say that...however, I now have about 20 people |
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on ignore (literally) so I'm starting to forget how stupid I am for supporting a Muslim, present voting, shucking and jiving, crack smoking, do nothing, Pro Iraq War, anti-choice, no issue, insubstantial, male chauvinist, lazy, fairy tale of a negroid.
Did I miss any other slur that's been cast at Obama around here or by other Democrats at large?
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 AM
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44. As the "First Gentleman" wannabe would say, |
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"I feel your pain". I have a lot of folks on ignore, too. Just hang in there. We all can't be stupid!
:hi:
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:45 AM
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38. I am not a Kucinich supporter, nor have I ever been. BUT excluding him from the debate |
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makes the Democratic Party look undemocratic! I think DK adds value to any debate about the future of this country and should be heard. There were several reasons I didn't support him as a candidate but I thought his views were refreshing and added substance to the earlier debates. I would have like to have heard more and was annoyed that he got so frozen out. That doesn't make sense to me...
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:49 AM
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42. MSNBC will cancel. n/t |
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Tue Jan-15-08 11:55 AM
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46. That's what the corporate elite wanted. |
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This whole incident was manufactured by them to shut the debate down so certain candidates couldn't be heard by the public. A poll yesterday showed Edwards in a tie in Nevada with C. and O. The M$M was told to nip any chance for Edwards to get more support in the bud.
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Tue Jan-15-08 12:00 PM
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48. No Dennis, it's a snorefest between Tweedle-Dee, Tweedle-Dum and Tweedle-Doh |
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Add a little Dennis to the mix and it may be worth watching.
Otherwise I'm loading up on amphetamines, just so I can keep my7 eyes open.
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Tue Jan-15-08 12:09 PM
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he will end up defending Hillary to Edwards' detriment. Which doesn't mean he'll leave Hillary unscathed; it just means that every time Edwards attempts an attack on Hillary, Kucinich will be there to spotlight the hypocrisy.
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