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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:51 PM
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Poll question: Flush with his win tonight in Michigan...
...what are Willard's odds for a significant bounce?

Will he have won tonight only to be trounced by Huckabee in South Carolina?

Will Giuliani, having sold the family cow for Florida's magic beans, ride the swap to the nomination, or does he go down in the glades, gurgling gurgling, gurgling gone?

Does McCain have the stamina to compete for his party's nomination from this point forward, or will he wither and fade altogether?

Does Fred Thompson have the gumption to attend his own funeral?

POLL QUESTION: Who do you think the GOP will nominate in Minneapolis?
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:53 PM
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1. What a sorry list of loosers.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:53 PM
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2. I still think it will be McCain.
Romney has no support beyond rich bastards. That's a fact.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:54 PM
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3. Yeah, there aren't many rich losers in the GOP. No base to work with there.
:eyes:
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:57 PM
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5. It's not enough.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 10:57 PM by Zynx
I live in a very rich Republican county, but they still need the votes of middle class Republicans.

Their voting power doesn't come from the rich bastards, but from ordinary income voters. Their leadership should not be confused with their foot power.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:12 AM
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25. He just got 336,000 votes out of about 925.000 cast in the R primary in MI
That's a lot of rich people.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:43 AM
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26. Along with home field loyalty voters, yeah.
If you break open that exit poll you see how his vote came in. 41% said that his ties to Michigan were important to their vote and nearly 60% voted for Romney.

The only people who really like him are rich bastards. He doesn't generate any excitement anywhere else. Can you see some guy in outstate Kentucky, the sort of guy who got really excited about Bush, getting excited about Mitt Romney?
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:10 AM
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27. McCain is done here
His "straight talk" about the auto industry being dead and not coming back was about as inept of a strategy as I have ever seen. He just cut a general election commercial for the Democratic nominee to run in November.

Romney may be full of shit but at least he made the effort to pretend like he gave a shit. That's why he won. Had McCain done that he would have won here and would have looked like the candidate to beat. Now it is wide open. I don't know who is going to win on their side.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:56 PM
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4. He stays alive but will lose South Carolina
If McCain wins SC he is back in the driver's seat. The thing Romney has going for him is he has the most money to run on Super Tuesday. Still I think McCain is the most likely to win the rethug nomination but it is much harder to handicap their race than ours.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:58 PM
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6. Agree. The GOP race is a scrambled mess right now. If Huckabee wins SC,
a case could be made that he's their frontrunner. If Giuliani can't win in Florida, I think he's out of there.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:03 PM
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11. Huck's base is too limited
He needs Romney and McCain to keep splitting states. If one is knocked out it is hard to see a fundamentalist like Huckabee winning. The exit poll today showed him doing poorly among people who aren't religious while he got 37% with people who go to church regularly.

I agree. Giuliani has been awful in the first three states. He will be done if he doesn't win Florida and right now he is in fourth there.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:05 PM
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13. Yes. I'd like to see his GOP opponents turn on Huckabee, leaving him so
furious he can't see straight, and then bolt for a third party run.

Agree with you on his base -- it's frenzious but teensy.

I picture Rudy in a battered wooden boat, desperately rowing toward the Florida shore, hammerhead sharks circling the craft, waiting, waiting, waiting . . .
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:07 PM
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15. Hopefully the msm picks up Huckabee's stunning comment about "god's law" in the US
That may finish him off.

Their race will be unclear after Super Tuesday. We may have a clear front runner of Supr Tuesday. They won't.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:11 PM
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16. jackson_dem, you are right to hope for an msm pick-up of Huck's God quote.
Many voters don't want religious fanatics fiddling with the dials of their democracy. Huckabee made a mistake with that quotation -- grubbing up the short-term fundie support but losing the big-picture contest in the long run.

You absolutely nailed it.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:13 PM
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17. CNN just mentioned it!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:16 PM
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18. Bingo. Now they need to KEEP on mentioning it! The Republican Party has
itself to blame for creating a monster like Huckabee, who's tracking mud across their floors. So in that respect, they're getting what they paid for.

On the other hand, Huckabee is a frightening, possibly unstable guy. I don't want him making domestic policy or making judicial appointments.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:17 PM
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19. I agree about him but he has no chance to become president
Even if he wins the nomination he would lose badly in November. I am not worried about him. McCain is the only credible candidate they have.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:26 PM
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20. Yes. McCain, risen from the grave, walks the land anew. He does seem like
a zombie. We could call him a rightwing tool, and a strong case could be made that he fits that description, but his back-from-the-dead aura is giving him a strange, eerie luster.

He won the Michigan primary last time and lost it tonight to someone even weirder than he is.

Agree with you that as GOP viability goes this cycle, McCain is the least inhuman of the pack. He's the greater threat as a result.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 10:59 PM
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7. Most Likely McCain with Fuckabee as VP


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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:02 PM
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9. Plausible, and worth our worrying about. I'd love to see a robotic android
like Romney ascend to their podium.

I worry that a McCain/Huckabee ticket could give us trouble in places like Missouri and Ohio.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:55 AM
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24. Ohio is a MUST WIN for Us
There are no electoral votes for us in the South for Hillary or Obama. Not one. Especially with Huckster on their ticket.
We have to win Ohio. If Huckster has that much appeal there then we really have a problem.
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:01 PM
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8. Alan Keyes
Well, I can dream can't I? :)
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:02 PM
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10. The Keyes juggernaut rolls on!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:03 PM
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12. It's a tie: J.Fredd Muggs & Alfred E. Neuman
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:06 PM
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14. That might be a better ticket for the Rethugs than any they'll contrive in
Minneapolis.

Hiya, Seabiscuit.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:34 PM
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22. Yo, Crusoe... indeed, Muggs and Neuman are head and shoulders above the rest of that pack.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:36 PM by Seabiscuit
The clear GOP winner is:

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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 PM
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21. Norm Coleman! n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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23. LOL! With any luck, Coleman will be hanging by a thin thread next fall.
I'd love to see us pick up that Senate seat.

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