Egnever
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:10 PM
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NYT and the Hillary camp are full of shit |
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Delegates absolutely were selected today. I filled out the paperwork for them. They go forward from here to the county conventions and then on to the state conventions. In order for Hillary to get the most national delegates out of nevada. Obama delegates will have to switch to her. That may or may not happen but as of right now Hillary lost the delegate race in Nevada.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:11 PM
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1. Hey Eg, how'd your caucus go? |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:13 PM
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Hillary got 5 delegates Obama got 4 out of my precinct and no one else was viable.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:16 PM
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12. Cool...plus you have that photo of Kerry and your boy forever |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:18 PM
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16. Yea it has been a great ride here |
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I got to see more candidates up close and personal than i ever imagined would be possible. Yay for being an early state!
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 PM
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25. How did people take the law suit |
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the ad, and all the rest. Did anybody even care about the underhanded tactics, know about them, or were they just voting based on general beliefs.
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Sat Jan-19-08 10:00 PM
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 10:03 PM by dailykoff
The NYT is no different from the rest of Corp-CIA-Media except they've got an additional dog in the race being that Hilly is a NY state senator. So I'm not expecting any more credibility in their reporting for this race than the last two.
EDIT: meant to reply to the OP, oops
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:11 PM
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2. YES! Finally the truth. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:12 PM
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We're happy for you, you charmer, you. |
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Fewer votes. More delegates. Impressive system.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 PM
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26. at least you admit it now |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:12 PM
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3. My understanding is that it is more likely that Clinton delegates will switch to Obama. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:12 PM
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4. So you have filled out the paper work for an event |
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that will not happen for months yet - the state convention?
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Egnever
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:16 PM
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11. No the county conventions are I believe a month from now |
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I dont remember the exact date but its not that far off. From there the delegates selected there go to the state convention. Where they vote again and the delegates selected from that vote go on to the national. If Everyone holds their ground Obama walks away from Nevada with more delegates than Hillary.
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Sat Jan-19-08 10:00 PM
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32. 23rd of February in Washoe |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:13 PM
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5. I have been waiting for your opinion. Thank you. I now believe that Obama won the Delegate Victory |
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This must have been a very difficult day for you. We've been hearing reports that the caucus didn't go as smoothly as all had hoped.
I really appreciated you checking in to give us the facts.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:30 PM
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and it was actually verry fun I had a blast. I was a little disapointed Obama didnt take my precinct but it was close enough for me to walk away happy as I really thought it would go overwhelmingly to her.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:13 PM
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6. I nominate Egnever for Press Secretary. |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:13 PM
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8. Thanks for the report ! |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:14 PM
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9. Were there dirty doings at your caucus? nt |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:17 PM
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what did suck though was having to turn away people after the counting started. I really felt bad when I had to tell people they were too late :(
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:19 PM
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17. I remember you're not in Vegas, now |
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I'm glad yours was clean.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:56 PM
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29. Was that after noon, and how many people? |
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I think a few people are probably complaining about you being one that turned them away, lol.
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Sun Jan-20-08 02:19 AM
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35. Yes it was after noon |
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And it sucked having to do it. There were a total of I think 6 different people.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:15 PM
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10. They are wrong and they know it. |
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 09:16 PM by jefferson_dem
Look at the self-contradictory statement from the Hillary camp - -
"Hillary Clinton won the Nevada Caucuses today by winning a majority of the delegates at stake.
The Obama campaign is wrong. Delegates for the national convention will not be determined until April 19."
Wha?
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:20 PM
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18. In the meantime they're going to make the right promises, get Reid to lean on people... |
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You know, typical high-brow Clinton politics.
I wouldn't doubt it if they succeed. But hopefully Barack will be so far ahead it won't matter.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:59 PM
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30. It probably won't work like that |
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Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 10:00 PM by sandnsea
The election will go on and the delegates will be tallied up until a clear winner emerges. One or the other will bow out and release their delegates to the other. There won't be any brokered convention or pressure on delegates because the nomination will probably be decided before the delegates are even seated.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:16 PM
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13. Some pretty nasty threads were going around because of people's ignorance |
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This is actually payback from Iowa, that inspite of Obama winning Iowa by 9%, He only was ahead by 1 delegate against Hillary because of the "super delegates"
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:17 PM
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15. Well, you gotta remember that Hillary IS the Party |
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What her highness wants, her highness gets.
So the bullcrap "delay" may not be accurate, she probably wont gain any more delegates, but just getting the Party to claim theres a "delay" allows her campaign to act like she won everything in NV heading into SC.
Trying to negate any perception that Obama won anything is the game right now.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:21 PM
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Unfortunately going forward from here we get a larger and larger influence from the party establishment here as the delegates get thinned out more and more through the county and state conventions. In reality I think in the end hillary will walk away with the most delegates because she has the establishment here behind her. However if Obamas support is willing to stand strong despite the presure he walks away the winner.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:27 PM
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20. I'm in until the end. |
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I will stand strong against her. With these tactics she's using it would literally pain me to have to vote for her.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:29 PM
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21. You must be right. The TV channels are all over your story......! |
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:29 PM
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22. There does seem to be widespread ignorance about how caucus states work |
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For those who don't know, precinct caucusing is just the first step. The next step is at the county or state legislative district level. It may be on to the state convention from there, but in WA there is a Congressional District step intervening. At any level, delegates can switch votes for any number of strategic reasons.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:51 PM
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 PM
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27. I believe no delegates have been chosen as yet |
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So for now at least Hillary won the vote, and Obama is "projected" to win one more delegate than Hillary.
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Sat Jan-19-08 09:55 PM
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28. And those delegates that Hillary won in Iowa are also still "projected"? n/t |
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Sat Jan-19-08 10:05 PM
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I believe they have a similar process there. If I remember correctly, Iowa also has super delegates that don't get chosen till later. So in Iowa Hillary is "projected" to have one more delegate currrently with a significant number still to be decided later.
Which BTW, means Obama could end up getting ALL those super delegates when the decision is made later.
I'm not knocking Obama, just prefer to wait till the chicken hatches.
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Sat Jan-19-08 10:05 PM
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33. The NYT will run flack for Hilly |
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just like they've run flack for Junior for the last eight years as long as those bombs keep a-fallin'.
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