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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:32 AM
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Every time Bill lashes out, Hill wins a primary!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/8025.html
"So maybe Bill Clinton isn't quite so far off-message as we had assumed.

After two weeks of reports on the former president's temper, the former first lady's supposed inability to keep him on script, and the ostensibly dire impact on his legacy, Hillary Rodham Clinton has won two straight primaries.

If there are Democratic voters who share the assessment that he's a "liability" to the campaign — a term floated by outlets from The New York Times to the London Telegraph — this reporter and many others seem not to have found many of them. And though Clinton's original, improvised attacks on Sen. Barack Obama discomfited some inside his wife's campaign, they also seemed to hit their mark.

The campaign has settled on a new strategy: Turn Bill loose".

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:36 AM
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1. It will backfire in the endorsment race,
Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 10:36 AM by Perky
Kennedy and Clyburn and Rahm E all tols Bill to Chill. Gore is next

All four will wind up endorsing Bill if he doesn't chill out.....

Incidently, I am not sure if Smith shows any causation here.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:41 AM
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4. Endorsement race? Rahm Emmanuel? Oh, the horror! Oh, noes!Bill has done it now!
Oh, the humanity! That all important endorsement race! It's evem more important than the delegate race!:eyes:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:37 AM
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2. Everytime she wins, she fails to get them most delagates
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:39 AM
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3. Bill is a great strategist and campaigner. Plus he can play the role of a vice presidential
candidate in that he can be the attack dog of the campaign while the presidential candidate stays removed from some of the controversy created by attacks and counterattacks.

He has a lot of credibility with Democratic crowds and doesn't have to worry about appearing "presidential". :)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:50 AM
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5. The Clintons' are very good at cutting people down.
They wallow in negativity.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:51 AM
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6. Being a combative asshole is not a solid long-term...
...strategy.

You might be able to score a few points, in the short term, being combative
and belligerent.

However, as this race matures and America sees the trends---it will become
apparent that Obama is campaigning on a positive agenda of ideas and the
Clintons are operating their "24/7 hatchet machine of attacks and lies".

I say, keep attack-dog Bill out front---with his condescending, frenzied
one liners. Keep the attacks and lies coming.

Obama is the trailblazer and the man with the courage here. He's out there
giving speeches, meeting with reporters for hour-long interviews and putting
himself out there.

Meanwhile, the Clintons follow him around---cherry picking every sentence
and twisting those sentences into lies.

So yes. You can distort, lie, manipulate, be a combative asshat and try
to destroy someone personally--and it might work in the short term.

However, in the long run this ham-handed, infantile bullshit will be a losing
strategy. After eight years of tearing down, fear, attacks and petulant bullshit
from Bush----it's time for fresh ideas and an uplifting candidate who doesn't
resort to these bizarre-attack tactics.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 10:58 AM
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7. Whether you like him or not, Bill Clinton is the most successful
national Democrat since Lyndon Johnson. If you bet that he doesn't know what he is doing, you will lose. The smartest thing the Clinton campaign can do is "Let Clinton be Clinton". I hate the idea of another 8 years of Clintonian rule (it had its positives, but a whole shit-load of negatives), but I think that everyone should psych-up, because it is coming. Book mark this thread - Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States of America...or what's left of it...
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