Proud2BAmurkin
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:35 PM
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The other post on why women hate Clinton says she's running as a man so women hate her. So while we're talking about why groups hate candidates, I'll weigh in on why men hate Obama.
Men hate Obama because he's a lightweight on national security. He doesn't acknowledge real threats in the world and instinctively that translates into weakness and getting us all killed.
He can't be pinned down on issues and is more of a free floating touchy feely type of candidate who appeals to non specific concepts like hope and change. That doesn't go over either. Men don't like Oprah candidates.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:36 PM
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1. Thank you! Women are not Smurfettes -- we're 51% of the population |
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Just because we've been marginalized by the system doesn't mean we think as narrowly.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:43 PM
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7. Not to mention 57% of the vote in the NH Dem primary |
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Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 03:43 PM by TwilightZone
Women are going to play a huge part in this election, a part that I think is being underestimated.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:37 PM
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2. Well, then they should really love |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:37 PM
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3. "Why women hate hillary" was a published article. |
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Your post is just flame bait.
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Proud2BAmurkin
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:41 PM
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5. should I publish it on a blog and then come back? |
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Tue Jan-22-08 06:04 PM
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26. You should publish it on a blog and not come back |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:43 PM
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9. Published in April 26 2007...since then, it is a proven fact that older women are voting Clinton... |
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and not choosing Obama (could be his misogynistic tendencies).
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:46 PM
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15. Yes, which the post linked to and discussed. |
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This post is merely starting another thread to refute that thread. And it's inflammatory.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:50 PM
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19. The nimrod who wrote that post discussed the fact that the article was from "April 26, 2007"? |
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Where? That nimrod only linked the article and left it up to the reader to find out WHEN it was written. Since that time, that article has been dis~proven. I didn't read anything about that in the OP.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:56 PM
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21. I didn't say he discussed the date. The article was linked and discussioned in the thread |
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I'm not arguing the merit of the article in question. There was adequate discussion of the article on the original thread.
Did DU somehow run out of room on the original thread to further disprove this article?
THIS thread is inflammatory and unnecessary. It only exists to further engage in an argument from another thread.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:59 PM
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22. This isn't my thread, but it is disingenuous to think the nimrod of the other thread... |
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didn't intend to have readers think the article was current. The intention was clear: Women hate Senator Clinton...NOW.
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Tue Jan-22-08 04:02 PM
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23. I agree. And that argument belongs in the thread it applies to. |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:39 PM
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4. I dont' know about Obama, but I hate Kucinich for having a hotter, younger wife than I do. |
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*** and sweetheart, if you read this, I'm just kidding. I'd take you over her any day of the week ****
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:43 PM
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8. I dislike him because of his close association with anti-gay bigots |
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His policies or stated plans with regards to national security don't figure in to my evaluation of him. And "hate" is far too strong a word; he it too insignificant in my life to merit hate.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:44 PM
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10. "...a lightweight on national security...weakness and getting us all killed." |
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Rudy? Get the fuck out of here.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:44 PM
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well that was funny :rofl:
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:44 PM
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11. Do you have polling data to back any of this up? Or are you talking out of your ass? |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:45 PM
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13. It's similar to polling data on "why women hate Hillary." Both have polled ahead with men |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:46 PM
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16. So it's bullshit, then. |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:45 PM
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14. I hate him because of his height/weight./build. He can wear ANYTHING! |
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:46 PM
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17. Because Clinton says I'm the strongest on national security does not make it so. |
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Edited on Tue Jan-22-08 03:46 PM by Skwmom
They will easily portray Clinton as a poll-taking commander in chief (and this will bring military spouses and family members out in droves to support McCain).
She can't attack McCain for voting for the worst debacle in U.S. history b/c guess what - she voted for it. Plus McCain has two sons serving in the military.
They'll run cartoons of Clinton being told that we've been attacked, does she want to see the intelligence reports. She'll say intelligence reports? Bring me the polls (which will remind Americans that she didn't even bother to read the intelligence reports in the run up to the Iraq War and that the Clintons govern by polls). Oh but she can find time to read and distort a transcipt of Obama's interview with a paper. With something as important as going to war, you think she could have found time to read the reports.
Obama is the only one who can hang the Iraq War around McCain's neck like an anchor. He can hammer him on the loss of life and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ wasted, etc.
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:47 PM
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18. That article also brilliantly pointed out that Obama was running a more feminine campaign |
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so therefore, men probably hate Obama because he's such a girl.
Makes as much sense as that article did, right?
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Tue Jan-22-08 03:50 PM
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20. Thanks P2BM, right on the money. |
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Tue Jan-22-08 04:16 PM
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24. Who are men polling in favor of, anyone know? n/t |
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Tue Jan-22-08 05:12 PM
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25. Here's a gender gap article link FYI |
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