David Zephyr
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:12 PM
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It Appears That John Edwards Might Upset Hillary & Place 2nd In S. Carolina. |
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Edited on Wed Jan-23-08 09:13 PM by David Zephyr
That will be a big story and will be the talk of every talk show on Sunday.
How bad of a loss would a third place finish be for Hillary?
Why would so many South Carolinians change their minds and support away from her?
Did she leave South Carolina because her campaign already saw it coming?
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:14 PM
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I would love to see John take it.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:14 PM
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2. "Many a slip between cup and lip" - we KNOW he'll get some delegates |
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and we HOPE he can pull off 2nd
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:14 PM
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3. Where are you getting your information? |
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I would love for Edwards to come in second (or first), but have you seen any polls showing this?
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:14 PM
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4. Not a loss at all..Feb 5th will be her day.. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:32 PM
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29. if you don't think a 3rd place finish would affect Feb 5, you are deluded. |
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Thu Jan-24-08 06:10 AM
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36. Nothing to worry about for the Clinton machine... |
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... they'll just spin it as a victory, for not having been defeated by an even larger margin.
I mean, heck, Hillary didn't even campaign in SC the last couple of days; her meek, introvert husband was left to ramble around the state in search of coverage. He was lucky to get any coverage at all, golly wiz.
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Thu Jan-24-08 06:22 AM
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37. Alas, I don't think a third place finish will make any difference |
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The Clintons are going to successfully downplay SC as being a "black primary". They won't use those words, but they've already been doing it. She's going to be the big winner on Feb 5th. She'll win by large margins in CA, CT, NJ, MA, AZ, AK, MN and NM. Obama will win IL, HI and perhaps GA and AL. He has a chance in TN and a couple of other states. If he can keep it close that will be great, but I have my doubts about that.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:16 PM
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5. Do you have any statistics to prove your point? |
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...would appreciate it. Thanks. :)
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:16 PM
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6. Edwards is the only Dem contender left who could win. I hope he gets the nom.... |
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...because nominating either Obama or Hillary = "President Huckabee".
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:19 PM
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It's so obvious, not so much with Obama but Hillary = poison
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:35 PM
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32. correct, except probably McCain |
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the pug machine will settle on him as another reagan/shrub sockpuppet they can use for four years while grooming Jeb or someone
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:46 PM
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34. "President Huckabee" right he will be president right after he learns that the The Flintstones |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:17 PM
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7. The polls would seem to indicate otherwise. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:27 PM
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and the "Media" in general?
I swear a majority of people would vote for a ne'er do well drug addled chicken-hawk if poll numbers, name recognition and favorable coverage told them candidate "X" was the best person to be President.
Oh wait, they did that didn't they. How gullible.
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Wed Jan-23-08 11:14 PM
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35. The OP wasn't about voting for Edwards. |
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It was asserting that "it appears" that he's going to take second. If there's evidence that that's going to happen, I'd like to check it out.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:19 PM
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9. Isn't this JE's home state? Why isn't he leading? |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:26 PM
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13. IIRC, John is from North Carolina n/t |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:30 PM
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15. Born in SC, represented NC. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:31 PM
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16. Because nobody knew he was running until this week? |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:42 PM
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22. doesnt represent th status quo there, tho he could win if they end up hate'n women/blacks more than |
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his politics.. just my impression of the SC people i worked with here in NC.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:21 PM
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Hillary got third place in Iowa.
Which doesn't seem to have set her back too much so far.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:22 PM
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11. The debate was a fantastic |
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boon for him, Letterman last night, Olberman tonight - the more people see of him, the more they like him. Memories are short, we really didn't see that much of him in 03/04 - once Kerry was deemed the winner, Edwards was pushed back.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:53 PM
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24. I got to witness John campaigning solo as VP candidate several times, of course this was on C-SPAN |
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No matter which rally C-SPAN covered, JFK & JRE, JFK, JRE, together alone, there were massive crowds. It was a sight to behold. Americans wanted CHANGE, instead we got more "Election Fraud" and the Bush Regime/Cartel/Cabal.
C-SPAN is a great source for getting to SEE candidates on the campaign trail.
It usually inspires me that we have good candidates, but I worry about the level of mudslinging and turn of events and how that could really hurt the party in the long run.
I'm not talking about our party uniting behind our nominee. I'm talking about ALL the dirt the other side will have against us.
Is exposing our candidates flaws serving anyone remotely sane???
Who really gets to benefit by this behavior???
Why GIVE the other side ammo to use against us if either one of the the mudslingers wins the nomination???
Isn't this a lot more damaging to have to tolerate "OUR" candidates conducting themselves as combative to one another???
To Hillary: What do you hope to accomplish by misrepresenting facts?
To Obama: You claim you want to bring rethuglicons, independents, and the Reagan democrats into your campaign. Yet, Why are you attacking your Democratic opponents???
To Everyone: Why AREN'T you going after the repiglicons????
AFTER ALL THEY GOT US INTO THIS MESS... AND THAT'S WHERE THE SCANDALS ARE.....
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:23 PM
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12. is SC a winner take all? |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:28 PM
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14. If that happens, they'll only show #1 and #3.... |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:34 PM
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18. Just imagine what they'll do when Edwards wins. |
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Nobody won the primary, but Obama came in second, and Hillary was third.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:39 PM
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yep, that would be about right.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:55 PM
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:32 PM
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17. I saw a great clip of him at the last debate--I wouldn't be surprised |
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if he came in 1st in some future primaries. He made himself stand out as an alternative while Obama and Clinton were bickering.
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:34 PM
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19. I like John, I like Barack more ... but go for it you deserve this. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:38 PM
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20. Got ANY back-up on that? Inquiring minds... |
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A link, a source, a rumor??? Anything...
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Wed Jan-23-08 09:47 PM
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23. that would be nice. But as much as I love Edwards, I don't expect this to happen |
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:27 PM
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27. That would be very interesting. Hope he picks up a few delegates. |
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:31 PM
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28. what are you basing this on? |
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Last poll I saw had Edwards at 15%.
It's far more likely that he'll do a repeat of Nevada. People will decide to cast their vote for one of the two frontrunners rather than waste it on someone who doesn't have a chance.
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:33 PM
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31. but unlike Nevada this is his home state and he won it in 2004 |
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:42 PM
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but I've been surprised at how poorly he is doing there, being a "favorite son" and all. I think there does come a point where people decide that you aren't a viable candidate anymore - and Edwards is very close to that point.
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Wed Jan-23-08 10:32 PM
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30. No...she went to California to pick up the United Farm Workers Endorsement |
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I believe she's due back in SC tomorrow I would dearly love for JE to do well in SC though.
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