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Sat Jan-26-08 01:18 PM
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Obama is the "youth candidate" and can't win broad appeal |
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Haven't heard that coming from the M$M or the Clinton camp. I guess race works better.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:25 PM
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1. Young people are going to be stuck with this mess. |
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They better vote or they are going to be regretting it big time.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:25 PM
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2. If exit polls are any indication, that could be an accurate statement. |
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In NH, Hillary dominated the age groups starting at 40.
In Nevada, she had a lead at 45 and a huge lead with 60+.
And, in fairness, I think that there was some criticism from the Hillary camp about Obama's comments about baby boomers.
And, wasn't there a big hubbub about "don't trust anyone over 50" or something like that?
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:26 PM
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3. Young people haven't shown up since Iowa. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:29 PM
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7. NV MSNBC exit poll: 18-29yo voted Obama 59-33% |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:31 PM
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9. I guess that put an end to that... |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:33 PM
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11. The problem is that they were only 18% of the total voters. |
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Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 01:35 PM by TwilightZone
It's the 67% that are 40 and older that were Obama's problem. They went overwhelmingly to Clinton.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:34 PM
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14. Perhaps, but he also won 30-44yo 46%-38%. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:37 PM
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16. He also lost 25-29, so what's your point? |
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There is a clear indication that he is at a serious disadvantage with voters over 40, and they are the ones who are showing up at polling time.
Over 40: 67%. Under 40: 33%, including the 25-29 demographic, which Obama lost in NH.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:28 PM
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4. The Clintons tried to suppress the youth vote in Iowa and NH. |
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So, no worries. They are clearly prepared to play the entire deck of wedge issues to win.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:31 PM
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8. More than Rove I suspect. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:32 PM
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10. you have proof of this? |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:34 PM
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In my sig line. The Clintons by proxy filed lawsuits in every single state so far to suppress the vote, and they've used other techniques of suppression as well. They learned well from those that brutalized them in the 1990s, and now the students have become the master.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:40 PM
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17. Where in either of those articles does it specifically address suppression of the youth vote? |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:34 PM
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12. How do you suppress the youth vote? Did Hillary take away their car keys? |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:28 PM
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5. "Haven't heard that coming from the M$M or the Clinton camp." |
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Thats because race has been working in getting the corporate Highness her turn as President.
If that fails to work, what you describe will be Plan B.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:29 PM
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6. "Youth" I though that was a racial term.. |
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and coming from the Obama camp..tsk..tsk..
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:34 PM
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13. Gotta save some fake issues for the general election |
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I have no doubt this will come up big time at some point.
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:51 PM
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18. Over 45s simply question his experience . |
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Sat Jan-26-08 01:54 PM
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19. I think many older people don't think Obama understands |
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the history of our party very well.
But I think most older Dems will vote for Obama if he is the nominee.
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Sat Jan-26-08 02:03 PM
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20. Are "older Dems" some different category of human? |
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Sat Jan-26-08 05:29 PM
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21. There has been an analysis of voting patterns |
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in the primaries, as other DUers have pointed out.
Obama has led among the younger voters while Hillary has led among older voters.
The analysts looked at other categories, as well. For example, in the Nevada primary, a much higher percentage of those who characterized themselves as very liberal voted for Hillary than for Obama.
I don't see anything wrong with sorting out voting patterns by different groups. Do you?
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