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Mon Jan-28-08 09:48 PM
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Why do African American voters think that Obama can do more for them than Edwards or Clinton |
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Does he have any proven track record that he has done anything for them in the past? If he won the Democrat nomination and was voted in as president, would he be able to handle ANY criticism and not call the critic "racist". To me, it seems that the Clintons only have to open their mouths and the media and Obama campaign team are looking for racist innuendo. Is that what his presidency is going to be like?
Hillary Clinton, being female, is up against males and it doesn't seem to me that she is looking for innuendo about her gender.
I would love to see Edwards improve considerably in this campaign so that voters can return to judging the candidates on policy and not race or gender.
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:49 PM
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1. He's the blacker candidate. |
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Isn't that the answer you're looking for?
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:53 PM
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And the first reply too. My hat's off to you good sir.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:05 PM
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I always appreciate your recognition (seriously). :loveya:
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:06 PM
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13. Well, if I was only 1/2 the Mercer supporter that you are |
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:loveya:
Ahh, you're my favorite Kucinich supporter on here.
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:50 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:57 PM
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Hope for who...? I personally am NOT Hoping for HOPE!
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:51 PM
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But SC is an anomoly. It is one state. SC will never go to a Democrat in the GE.
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:51 PM
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4. some do, some don't nt |
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:52 PM
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5. Wow. This is gonna be great! |
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:56 PM
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8. Clinton did a lot for Afro Americans |
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He had more Black in his cabinet than any other prez. He has proven himself. Edwards takes in all Americans in his speeches, all will be treated the same.
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:54 PM
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7. Why do so many white people not trust a black man to be a president |
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is a question I would like answered.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:07 PM
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14. All candidates should be treated equally |
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I would like to see everybody try to see past the color or gender and just listen to what they have to say and what they have done in the past (to back it up). I have absolutely nothing against a black president or a female president as long as they can handle the job. Two of my favorite leaders are Nelson Mandella from South Africa and Helen Clarke from New Zealand. I would hate to see the scenario where the Democrats fight so much amongst each other that they let the Republicans in again.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:08 PM
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15. why do you ask like that... |
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I trust black men ..woman..IT IS THIS ONE I have problems with...It's not fair to me or other voter be accused of racism or hating one another because we disagree with your candidate. For one..I truly believe with all my heart and from my research he has not been up front and totally candid. I really loved Obama a couple of months back...but since coming to DU...my views have change ..a lot! I am too tired at the moment to bore you with my experiences..findings... etc...BUT will say...IF Obama had lived up to his promises and rose above the MSM game..I might feel different about supporting him and have a better opinion of his supporters here. bestest to you.:)
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:27 PM
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and I'm not so very sure about Obama as president. I honestly think that whole coalitions of people in Congress will form to thwart his efforts because he seems to have no actual plan.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:01 PM
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10. The real question is why wouldn't you think that? |
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Why would women voters think Clinton would be better for them?
Why would white men voters think Edwards would be better for them?
Please stop the flame baiting, each candidate has drawn from a much wider range of voters than any of the Repub candidates, so lets move on with electing our candidate.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:02 PM
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11. Are you making this stuff up? |
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Hillary was polling higher than Obama with blacks in many states.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:10 PM
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16. Some black people are just plain stupid. . . |
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They vote skin color for the sake of skin color. What a wasteful and stupid thing to do.
And before you start crying "RACIST!" you need to know that I AM A BLACK WOMAN; in fact, I am a Daughter of the 54th Massachusetts Regiment (see the movie "Glory"), who had two great-grandfathers that fought at the battle of Fort Wagner. Once again, in fact, my namesake great-grandfather was taken prisoner at that infamous battle and was literally "done to death" at Andersonville Prison. My blackness is bonafide! In addition to all of this, I was AT MLK's "I have a dream speech" in Washington DC. I lived through and saw the "Whites only-Colored only signs"; I was one of the people who couldn't get a meal at the Woolworth's lunch counter. Don't tell me I'm a racist. That is patently impossible!
Yet, it still disturbs me that some black people continue to vote the color of the skin rather than the content of the character.
I love Barack Obama. He is a wonderful person. But he is also callow and naive. It is not entirely clear to me that he has the ability to do all of the things he promises. I would love to see a black president. The historical legacy is enormous! Yet, it is also clear that presidents must have the capacity to DO SOMETHING, and to persuade others to their side, and I cannot picture the Congress falling into line behind Obama.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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20. without commenting one way or another on what you had to say |
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If the Clintons had said it, the presidencial race would be over for Hillary.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:29 PM
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Shit..if a Hillary supporter said that, alerts would fly..people ould get banned.. Children would cry..and the sun would go super-nova.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:35 PM
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26. who the hell do you think you are calling me ignorant? |
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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23. Did you actually READ my comment? |
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From what you said, it is very clear that YOU DID NOT READ ANY PART OF MY COMMENT!
Sheesh.
From time immemorial (at least from the time that black people could actually vote in this nation) there have been a certain percentage of blacks that vote merely on the basis of skin color. And that's all the more sad for us as black people. We need to vote for the BEST person, not the blackest person.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:36 PM
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28. You do realize that there are people of all colors and flavors |
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that vote for people like themselves or who they relate to, right?
And more, that there are plenty of legitimate reasons for doing that, right?
:crazy:
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:11 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:13 PM
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18. Funny Think About Hillary And Gender Attacks |
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She and her campaign don't have to point them out. It's so easily visible to those of us who see them for what they are, cause we've been seeing it for decades, already.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:22 PM
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19. Obama is charismatic, and an excellent orator. He inspires. Has strong unseen backing. |
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He has learned the art of tickling people's ears. Plus he is a democrat.
Just exactly like George W. Bush snookered in the Republicans en masse.
And that is the scariest thing about Obama.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:34 PM
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25. When was Junior ever charismatic, a good orator or inspirational? |
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:39 PM
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29. And HRC ascended to be a Presidential frontrunner, based on her family ties. |
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Just like Dubya!
Scary. Boo! :scared:
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:40 PM
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30. Without trying to spoil the Kennedy reputation |
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John F Kennedy had a lot of Charisma too. With the forcefulness and encouragement of Martin L. King and Bobby Kennedy, he started the ball rolling on racial equality. That is the only real positive I can remember about his presidency. Other than the "Bay of Pigs" scandal, involving the US in Vietnam, playing a part in nearly involving the world in nuclear war with Russia and being a worse serial bonker than Bill Clinton, I think his legend outweighs reality.
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:54 PM
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31. To that I would add that JFK was raised well, |
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the dignity and charm of his Mother's culture was instilled in him. White lace Irish they called in turn-of-the-century Boston. Unlike Bush and, sad to say, Obama.
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