Bookmark this, it may not happen again: Tonight I Like & Respect Hillary Clinton !

[K Gardner]

I don't know who this woman was on the stage. I was a supporter and fan for many, many years until the nastiness and ugliness and dishonesty of this campaign turned my stomach against her.

Tonight, the "old" Hillary was back. Where did she go? What happened in the past months? Yes, I have concerns about some of her votes, but aside from the issues, the woman I saw tonight was articulate and well-versed, intelligent and competent and personable (if not unapologetic about her Iraq vote.. she needs to work on the triangulation).

With Edwards out of the race - and don't get me started on that - I will still cast my vote for Obama. But a piece of advice to Hillary: Strident and dishonest does NOT become you. Mark Penn does not become you. Bill Clinton yelling and wagging his finger does not become you. The attack dogs do not become you. You do not need any of them. Just be yourself, please. Be that strong, capable woman we all know you can be, without the triangulation and without the scheming.

Congratulations, Hillary. You did good tonight.

[AGirl]

1. aww thats sweet.

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[Joe the Revelator]

3. Her IWR response keeps me from getting any warm fuzzies from her.

[K Gardner]

9. Not really warm fuzzies for me, Wolsh.. I'm just glad I can now stand to listen to her without

feeling total disgust ! :hi:

[Auntie Bush]

11. Unfortunately you might not be a warm and fuzzy person.

[Joe the Revelator]

17. I am a very warm and fuzzy person

I don't know what a personal attack on me has to do with the debate or this thread.

[Clintonista2]

20. Waah!

Woe is Wolsh!

[K Gardner]

25. Wolsh is MY warm and fuzzy ! Leave Wolsh alone !!!

[Auntie Bush]

35. OK

I just couldn't resist the thought as it came flooding into my head. Maybe I was getting waterboarded? I'm all better now and will behave myself. Maybe I'm having an epiphany Maybe I'm just happy to hear you say something positive about Hillary and just maybe some others will follow your lead. If she wins the primary...that's just the attitude we'll need. Peace to both to you.

[emilyg]

31. Rainy night in Georgia - you need those fuzzies.

Come on - you know they were both good.

[maddiejoan]

4. Same here

Bookmark this too.

I'll be very happy if Obama is my next President.

[K Gardner]

30. Maddiejoan & I agree for the first time ! What a wonderful night on DU and I'll say the same for

Hillary !

[blm]

5. I have always respected her acting abilities.

I just know better when it comes to the Clintons and their actual record of protecting the fascist agenda and the Bushes.


http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html

[rodeodance]

19. TAKE a HIKE-- this is a HILL appreciation thread. BOOOOOO

[blm]

24. No.

I am serious about open government - that it bothers some here is no concern of mine. What should a CITIZEN seek to protect in this nation, if not open government?

[rodeodance]

27. That was not my point. but you know that.

[blm]

33. And you should know mine by now.

I have been consistent and earnest and truthful.

[Nailzberg]

6. I've always like Hill. It's Mark Penn and Mike Henry that get my blood boiling

Tonight we saw Hillary, and not her campaign. It was nice.

[sandnsea]

7. If she explained all the variations

I would agree with you. Of course, there were moments in this debate that I wasn't happy with, such as her "coersive diplomacy" and refusal to explain what went wrong on the Iraq intelligence. And of coures, the health care mandates.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

8. the fucking media happeded.......,she was always right there...

[K Gardner]

14. You may be right about that.. they certainly did it to Edwards and Biden, et al.

[Colobo]

10. Hillary won me over as well. I'm for Obama, but Hillary showed me something tonight.

[K Gardner]

12. I think so too, Katz.

[JohnnyLib2]

13. Recommended and bookmarked.

Hope you will not be shunned by the less broad-minded!

[rodeodance]

15. chuckle. very nice

[Neshanic]

16. She converted me. That was no easy gig.

[Colobo]

18. I'm for Obama. He's the best candidate. But she is good too.

[ursi]

21. I'm still with Obama, she'd be good in a job that Bill can't control, standing on her own two feet

[rodeodance]

22. ~YES SHE CAN, YES SHE CAN YES SHE CAN~~~ ALL FIRED-UP FOR THE LADY~~

[Samantha]

23. She received extremely bad advice previously from Mark Penn

and as a result turned in a devastatingly bad performance. The question seems to be focusing on can Barack Obama prevail as a result of his improved debate performance which was his formal debut to much of the California voting public. The additional question not being asked is can she prevail as a result of her improved performance after discarding all of Mark Penn's advice? What picture will be left with the voters of California on both of these candidates as a result of tonight's televised debate. Tuesday will tell.

Sam

[K Gardner]

26. It will indeed be interesting to see, Sam. I'm just glad I voted today and didn't wait until Tuesday

some people are going to have a VERY tough decision !

[Flabbergasted]

28. Very good call. Hillary be Hillary. She's a smart powerful woman.

[K Gardner]

29. Yes, she is. And she really does NOT need special interest groups lobbying for

her to get special treatment, or even reminders that she is "a woman". This has been my point all along. The Hillary I knew in the 1990s was a PERSON of remarkable power and intelligence and empathy.. not a "woman". I am not explaining myself well here, I know, but I don't SEE gender or race when looking at leaders. I don't think that race or gender absolves anyone of the responsibility to be the best PERSON they can be, the most honest PERSON they can be. Tonight, Hillary was a LEADER.. genderless, raceless. She was simply, Hillary.

[HughMoran]

32. Her performance was good and she looked good too

You're right, she really needs to stick with the "old" Hillary. Let's hope she learned her lesson these past couple of weeks and that this new "love fest" is more the norm than not (not that they shouldn't emphasize their differences.)

[Hill_YesWeWill]

34. I agree, she was more like herself tonight! nt