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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:29 PM Original message |
IWR = Hillary's downfall |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. her IWR vote is a positive in the GE. She says invasion is because of shithead R president |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. hard to say |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Not really.. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
26. or 'usurp' her.... |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Nice try, Lee Atwater! |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
65. Horseshit as usual |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe on this forum, but the majority of Americans were also behind the war. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. "the majority of Americans were also behind the war. " |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Americans in general vote for a President who is more hawkish than dovish. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
9. They also want someone with the foresight to make the right decision |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. But Obama didn't vote on that decision...he was busy working for the Syrian slum~lord Rezko... |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. oh please |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. We have to base our assumption on past experience and his "experience" is lack~luster. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. thanks for adding 'Syrian' in there |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. I wish we wouldn't go there |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. You have something against Syrians? |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. nope not at all |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. They were wrong and now they know it. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:35 PM Original message |
exactly |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
43. The Iraq Occupation |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. they aren't NOW |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
47. There were also mass anti-war demonstrations |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
50. Because Americans are like most other people everywhere else |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. It's her downfall for the primary |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. In the 2004 GE |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. Flip Flop |
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debatepro (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not just that but |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
6. No, people are more interested in the economy |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
10. To me, the most stunning moment in the debate |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. echoes of Condi Rice |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Yes, I was going to add that to my post |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. It was a cheap shot by Obama.. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
51. Cheap and MEAN! |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
55. There were no preconditions to military action in the IWR |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. When you're ready to listen ... the facts are on her side n/t |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. The majority of the Democrats in the House voted against the war |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. The resolution was to force inspectors back in. It worked. History |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. There was no requirement in the IWR that exhaustive inspections precede war as a condition |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. facts are irrelevant on this point |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. She voted in October 2002 for the inspectors to return. They did in |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. There's no flip flop? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. A flip flop is a change on an issue ... you haven't described one n/t |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Oh, is she now in favor of having gone to war? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The resolution was to force inspectors back in. Read it some time n/t |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. and do you recall the title of that resolution ....? |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It was titled to scare Hussein and it worked. Did you read it? I did n/t |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Please, just recall the title. |
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Fredda Weinberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I do, but we're not simple minded fools. Hussein was n/t |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. And what was the title of that resolution exactly? |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:49 PM Response to Original message |
19. Barack can say he clearly had foresight on the war against mccain, once there.. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
23. Interesting that neither mention the studies of the 900+ LIES leading up to the vote.. |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. agreed, she should just say that |
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Exultant Democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
24. I think she lost the latino vote and lost the nomination well before that. |
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agdlp (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
38. Obama March 2, 2007: My plan allows for a limted number of troops to remain in Iraq |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
44. Um |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
52. IWR means diddly to the average voter. Just to desperate Obamites here & DipKos and at TPM... |
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subsuelo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:34 AM Response to Reply #52 |
60. not so |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
53. I agree |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
54. The war is just not much of an issue with voters. |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. It's not about the war, although it is....it is about leadership. |
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Yossariant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. McCain win a debate with Hillary?!?! Delusional. |
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Beregond2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:24 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Iraq |
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wildflowergardener (863 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
59. war |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
62. It didn't stop John Kerry in the primary. |
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Levgreee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. Everyone who lost the life of someone close cares greatly about this war |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
64. Bang on. |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:01 PM Response to Original message |
66. Al Franken supported the invasion also. |
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0007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
67. bttft |
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